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Old 06-19-2012, 04:05 PM   #11
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Notify the Michigan State Police as it is most likely their chopper here is the public affairs number.
Public Affairs Section
Information------------------------------------------------------------ (517) 241-0955
Fax-------------------------- (517) 241-0991


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Old 06-19-2012, 04:35 PM   #12
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I would actually go above the police level. Call homeland security and give them the tail #'s from the side of the helicopter and report it as very suspicios activity. I would also complain to the FAA, I doubt it's within FAA guidelines to fly so low in a residential neighborhood. Police or not the pilot has to have a license that I'm sure can get revoked for dangerous maneuvers like this. Just because they are police they don't have any more rights than you. Also get it on video as evidence and post it on you tube.


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Old 06-19-2012, 05:03 PM   #13
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. . . or you could give them a nice 'full moon' the next time they come to visit. Hopefully they're not the types that like that kinda stuff - or they may keep coming back for more! Your call~
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Old 06-19-2012, 05:31 PM   #14
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I have had them over my fields every year I would suspect that they do put off a similar IR signature Cheers Glen
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Old 06-19-2012, 06:02 PM   #15
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Fly overs are one thing but low level hovers are another. I would make a call.
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Old 06-19-2012, 06:38 PM   #16
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Here's what the FAA has to say about minimum safe altitudes

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§ 91.119 Minimum safe altitudes: General.

Except when necessary for takeoff or landing, no person may operate an aircraft below the following altitudes:

(a) Anywhere. An altitude allowing, if a power unit fails, an emergency landing without undue hazard to persons or property on the surface.

(b) Over congested areas. Over any congested area of a city, town, or settlement, or over any open air assembly of persons, an altitude of 1,000 feet above the highest obstacle within a horizontal radius of 2,000 feet of the aircraft.

(c) Over other than congested areas. An altitude of 500 feet above the surface, except over open water or sparsely populated areas. In those cases, the aircraft may not be operated closer than 500 feet to any person, vessel, vehicle, or structure.

(d) Helicopters, powered parachutes, and weight-shift-control aircraft. If the operation is conducted without hazard to persons or property on the surface—

(1) A helicopter may be operated at less than the minimums prescribed in paragraph (b) or (c) of this section, provided each person operating the helicopter complies with any routes or altitudes specifically prescribed for helicopters by the FAA; and

(2) A powered parachute or weight-shift-control aircraft may be operated at less than the minimums prescribed in paragraph (c) of this section.
Paragraph c probably applies, so if you live in a "sparsely populated area" they have to be at least 500 feet away from you and your house.

Paragraph D1 probably doesn't apply, there isn't likely to be a special helicopter route at 10 feet over your hops plants.

Of course, I'm sure they could get special permission from the FAA to break these rules but it still may be worth looking into.
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Old 06-19-2012, 06:45 PM   #17
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I'd wonder about the cost of chopper fuel used to ogle your hops plants. Complain about government waste.
Exactly what I was thinking.

At the very least, wouldn't it be better for those dollars to be spent trying to eradicate meth labs (which are a much bigger public safety hazard?)

Who the hell would be growing weed out in the open, on a trellis, in their back yard, anyway?
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That's intense!
If pot is such a huge problem in Michigan, maybe the local law enforcement need an upgrade. Maybe next year this will be hovering over your house.

I'll drive!
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Old 06-20-2012, 12:48 AM   #19
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Exactly what I was thinking.

At the very least, wouldn't it be better for those dollars to be spent trying to eradicate meth labs (which are a much bigger public safety hazard?)

Who the hell would be growing weed out in the open, on a trellis, in their back yard, anyway?
Uh, time to change farming techniques?
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Old 06-20-2012, 03:11 AM   #20
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better yet next time fly over.. run out and start taking pics of them.. LOL


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