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Old 06-15-2012, 11:33 AM   #1
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So I'm brewing a Pliny the Elder clone tomorrow, and am wondering what is the best method for straining out the near pound of hops in this recipe. I know something similar has been asked before but there never seems to be a clear consensus.

I have heard the 5 gallon paint strainer ideas, but that they can also clog up and not let the hop flavor out once you've put a good 5-6 oz. in there. Evidently the sides of the bag get totally covered in hop residue? I also don't have time to build one of those spider things by tomorrow. Would big binder clips work?

I was also honestly considering using panyhose - short knee highs, one for each oz of hops to get max utilization.

I should add I'm doing all grain with pellet hops. Am I at least on the right track in my thinking here?

 
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Old 06-15-2012, 12:28 PM   #2
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There is nothing wrong with the paint strainer bag idea. Some people just F-up on the process, which makes it more difficult. Get yourself 3 or 4 of them. Use one or two for kettle hops and secure with a thick rubber band. Skim off the foam atop the wort as it boils. When complete, use the other two bags to transfer the kettle wort to the bucket (wrap the bags around the bucket brim while you're carefully racking, with a bag wrapped around the racking cane to prevent clogging). Do not pour it. Clean the bags and reuse when it comes time to dryhop.

 
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Old 06-15-2012, 12:32 PM   #3
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I actually ferment in a carboy, so no bucket. Shoudl I maybe first strain into a bottling bucket, then back into carboy?

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Old 06-15-2012, 12:49 PM   #4
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I just put the paint strainer bag in the bottling bucket and rack into it. After I'm down to the last gallon of wasted beer and hop sludge I just pull the siphon and remove the bag which is now loaded with hops. On the monster iipa's like Pliny I may end up with hop haze but I kinda feel like a beer that hoppy should have a slight haze(flame on if you must). I've never had any issues with clogging using this method and I frequently brew ipa's with a pound of hops and 4-5 ounces of loose dry hopped pellets.

 
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Old 06-15-2012, 12:54 PM   #5
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I just put the paint strainer bag in the bottling bucket and rack into it. After I'm down to the last gallon of wasted beer and hop sludge I just pull the siphon and remove the bag which is now loaded with hops. On the monster iipa's like Pliny I may end up with hop haze but I kinda feel like a beer that hoppy should have a slight haze(flame on if you must). I've never had any issues with clogging using this method and I frequently brew ipa's with a pound of hops and 4-5 ounces of loose dry hopped pellets.
So you're saying just toss everything into the kettle, then strain into the bucket, then into primary?

Would there be any disadvantage to just putting the strainer in the kettle with big binder clips, or would that not get enough utilization?

 
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Old 06-15-2012, 12:59 PM   #6
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I actually ferment in a carboy, so no bucket. Shoudl I maybe first strain into a bottling bucket, then back into carboy?
You could do that... more aeration that way. You could dump it the second time through a funnel... no need to carefully rack to your carboy from the bucket.

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Would there be any disadvantage to just putting the strainer in the kettle with big binder clips, or would that not get enough utilization?
Rubber bands work fine. They don't melt or anything. I don't recommend wrapping the bag around your kettle because some flames may singe the tips of the bag. I do recommend just letting the bag float in the wort... or loosely wrapped around one handle of the kettle if you don't have rubber bands.

 
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Old 06-15-2012, 01:07 PM   #7
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I use the knee highs. During the boil, I'm constantly squishing them against the sides of the pot with my paddle (cleans the hot break off of the pot). I usually squeeze the juice out of them and remove them during chilling. I've also used them in the primary and in the keg. 3 pair for $1 at walmart. Get the Queen size.

 
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So you're saying just toss everything into the kettle, then strain into the bucket, then into primary?

Would there be any disadvantage to just putting the strainer in the kettle with big binder clips, or would that not get enough utilization?
I don't even bother straining out of the kettle. I just chill and transfer to the primary(no hop bags,spiders etc). I usually leave leave a half gallon of sludge behind but I really don't think it would matter either way. If I'm racking to secondary (only when dryhopping with 4 or more ounces) the beer is pretty clear at the transfer providing the yeast has dropped out. I guess I'm just lazy but I'm getting great results with my simple methods so at this point I'll stick with process.

 
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So you're saying just toss everything into the kettle, then strain into the bucket, then into primary?

Would there be any disadvantage to just putting the strainer in the kettle with big binder clips, or would that not get enough utilization?
I don't even bother straining out of the kettle. I just chill and transfer to the primary(no hop bags,spiders etc). I usually leave leave a half gallon of sludge behind but I really don't think it would matter either way. If I'm racking to secondary (only when dryhopping with 4 or more ounces) the beer is pretty clear at the transfer providing the yeast has dropped out. I guess I'm just lazy but I'm getting great results with my simple methods so at this point I'll stick with process.

 
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Old 06-15-2012, 05:24 PM   #10
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I don't even bother straining out of the kettle. I just chill and transfer to the primary(no hop bags,spiders etc). I usually leave leave a half gallon of sludge behind but I really don't think it would matter either way. If I'm racking to secondary (only when dryhopping with 4 or more ounces) the beer is pretty clear at the transfer providing the yeast has dropped out. I guess I'm just lazy but I'm getting great results with my simple methods so at this point I'll stick with process.
I normally do this on modest beers, but with this batch I'll have close to 8 oz. of hops in the kettle, not sure I want all that going into primary.

 
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