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Old 06-13-2012, 01:30 AM   #21
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Are hop bags not standard equipment for most people?

I use the draw string bags for 1-2oz of leaf or pellet hops and never have any problems. Is there a reason other people don't use them? If I have even more I use a larger fine mesh bag, I guess what a lot of people use for BIAB.

I can't imagine doing it any other way.
utilization. I like the fact that the hops are flowing freely through out the kettle during the boil.

 
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Old 06-13-2012, 04:58 AM   #22
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utilization. I like the fact that the hops are flowing freely through out the kettle during the boil.
How significant do you think the difference is? If it isn't fairly significant I'd rather deal with lower utilization than clogging my kettle valve.

 
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Old 06-13-2012, 02:34 PM   #23
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Whirlpool with a pump and use a side-pickup on the kettle. That leaves most the hops behind. If it's a super hoppy beer, just sanitize a paint strainer bag, and use it to filter the wort heading into the fermenter.
Whirlpooling might work with pellet hops, but whole cones are almost guaranteed to get stuck in the diptube/valves/pump assembly, no? If not, please give me some more details because Id like to overcome whole cone clogging!

 
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Old 06-13-2012, 04:37 PM   #24
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I always find it pretty amusing that people put the pick-up tube near dead-center from the kettle. If you whirlpool, that's exactly where all the hops debris + hot break are going to end up.

I've fitted my kettle with a simple copper ring that has very small holes drilled underneath it, and it's installed about 2/3rd of the way on the floor of my keggle. The hops + break all end up inside the center of it and I can draw off all of the liquid after whirlpooling briefly and letting it sit for 5-10 minutes.

In fact, the brewpub I briefly worked at used a whirlpool of 5 minutes (thru a pump) and settle time of 5 minutes. Their draw-off outlet was mounted, you guessed it, about 2/3rd of the way up from the kettle center. Their kettle was nearly flat but with a aim towards dead center, and there was a drain there too, to clean the kettle.

When I refer to 2/3rd of the way up, I am referring to the horizontal plane, not vertical.

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Old 06-13-2012, 04:38 PM   #25
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Look up my build. Works pretty well for around $30 altogether. All stainless steel. http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f51/120-...ellets-325650/
I love this screen setup. Mine is difficult to clean inside the screen, this looks like it could disassemble for a deep clean. Thanks for the links in your build!

 
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Old 06-13-2012, 05:05 PM   #26
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Pictures? Sounds like an interesting set up that I might be willing to try on my Keggle.
I don't have a picture handy, but think of this (below), but instead of exiting over the side, it exits through a compression fitting, and ball valve through the wall.



When I built mine, I put the part I wanted to be flat between 2 sheets of plywood, and gently hammered into shape. It also flattened the tube slightly, which helped when drilling small holes.

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Old 06-13-2012, 05:43 PM   #27
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I have a 15 gallon Blichmann brew pot and have used the following methods with various results, all using pellet hops only, on a variety of brews:

- Straight draining - huge trub and mess into the fermenter, occasionally this is the result of a failed alternate method

- Blichmann false bottom - like an idiot I tried this with pellet hops. DO NOT DO THIS. It stopped up within a gallon of transfer.

- Hop Blocker from theelectricbrewery.com - used the screen and dip tube as shipped, clogged on two brews, both within the last gallon of transfer, and without whirlpooling.

- Whirlpool then racking with hops thrown directly in - fairly successful, but lots of trub in the pot left over. I missed my usual fill mark into the fermenter due to this.

- Whirlpool then racking, hops hung in a hop bag for boil - Extremely successful. Probably the best method for filtering I've used, and honestly, one of the cheapest.

To whirlpool I did the following: Chilled wort, settled for 5 minutes, whirlpooled violently for a minute. Let it sit for 15 minutes, repeat whirlpool, repeat sitting again for 15 minutes. Rack the wort off from the side of the kettle with an auto-siphon.
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To whirlpool I did the following: Chilled wort, settled for 5 minutes, whirlpooled violently for a minute. Let it sit for 15 minutes, repeat whirlpool, repeat sitting again for 15 minutes. Rack the wort off from the side of the kettle with an auto-siphon.
Seems like the second whirlpool would totally undo the first, wasting 15 minutes...

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Seems like the second whirlpool would totally undo the first, wasting 15 minutes...

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Yeah I'm thinking so too. I read the technique elsewhere. At this point I'm still trying out everything to see what fits my brew day routine while still getting good results. I could certainly try skipping the second whirlpool.

EDIT: I should note that I have not gone back and tried just using a false bottom or hop blocker while placing hops into a bag. That could be just as clear and save time used on whirlpooling. I'm interested in seeing what others use here too.
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Skipper, how much hop material are you seeing in the bottom of kettle/whirlpool cone when using the hop bags? Is it mostly break material?

 
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