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Old 01-02-2013, 10:17 AM   #11
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- Pull the berries out of the freezer and dump them right in. Freezing them first not only "sanitizes" them but it breaks open the plant cells so you can get at all the juice available.
I'm sorry to inform you that freezing ANYTHING does not "sanitize." Freezing the berries will not kill bacteria, yeast, or molds. It will simply slow down the reproduction rate. This is why we put our food into the refrigerator because the lower temps retard the rate at which bacteria, yeast, and molds can multiply so that food lasts longer. I would use some k-meta or boil the berries if you wish to "sanitize."


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Old 01-02-2013, 04:13 PM   #12
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I'm sorry to inform you that freezing ANYTHING does not "sanitize." Freezing the berries will not kill bacteria, yeast, or molds. It will simply slow down the reproduction rate. This is why we put our food into the refrigerator because the lower temps retard the rate at which bacteria, yeast, and molds can multiply so that food lasts longer. I would use some k-meta or boil the berries if you wish to "sanitize."
Um.... yeah, I realize that. Note the quotation marks around sanitize. You then used the same punctuation incorrectly,

I freeze them so that it slows bacteria/fungus/etc, on the berries enough so that when I dump them into the cider there is absolutely no way they could out-compete the yeast being added.


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Old 01-03-2013, 01:37 PM   #13
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I freeze them so that it slows bacteria/fungus/etc, ...
My apologies. I am glad you know this. I just didn't want someone to read that and think that they could kill microbes by freezing. You would be surprised how many people think that practice works. Even Dr Oz is misinformed and tells women to sanitize makeup by putting it in the freezer overnight:

http://abcnews.go.com/m/story?id=8543211

And btw your recipe sounds really good. I might try this on my next batch. By using the amount of berries in your recipe did you find that the cider still had a nice apple flavor or did the berry flavor overpower the apple?
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There's still quite a bit of apple in there. And the berries have contributed more tartness than natural sweetness. It's quite nice and very refreshing. I need to make sure to save some for the summer... or just make more
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Do you think adding the berries to the secondary instead of the primary would give more berry flavor?
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Do you think adding the berries to the secondary instead of the primary would give more berry flavor?
Absolutely. I've done a raspberry cider and just started a mixed berry one. For 1 gallon I've done 1 cup berrys during primary and 2 cups during the secondary
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What I did for my raspberry cider was ferment the apple juice through primary, then add the berries to a bit of apple juice on the stove, mash them while it heats to 165, then strain with a wire strainer into secondary and rack on top of it. It worked really well, I find that any fruit flavors in primary get muddled and in secondary work real well.
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I'm making a "Very Berry Cider" that is super similar to this. I pitched S-04 into 5 gallons of store-bought apple juice 2 weeks ago, which I'll rack onto 5-8 lbs of Costco mixed frozen berries soon and let sit for another few weeks before kegging.. and carbing to the max. I'll let you all know how it comes out
I'd be interested in an update on this.. so do tell, in good time sir!
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I'd be interested in an update on this.. so do tell, in good time sir!
I kegged the cider an ditched the fruit... didn't want to risk ruining what turned out to be a really tasty 5.2% ABV cider. Maybe next time!
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