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Old 06-06-2012, 03:52 PM   #1
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I want to brew a SMASH Kolsch with all Vienna....
I want to mix it up and depart from the norm a bit.
I am open to suggestions on hops... decoctions or anything else that may be able to make this unique but still easy drinking without having it taste aweful

I would love to get suggestions from the membership!!

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Old 06-06-2012, 04:52 PM   #2
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I made a smash with 2-row and centennial, turned out great. Most Kolsch's just have light bittering hops anyways. The yeast is key. Also ferment in ideal temp range for sure. That is crucial.

WLP029 German Ale/ Kölsch Yeast
From a small brewpub in Cologne, Germany, this yeast works great in Kölsch and Alt style beers. Good for light beers like blond and honey. Accentuates hop flavors, similar to WLP001. The slight sulfur produced during fermentation will disappear with age and leave a super clean, lager like ale.
Attenuation: 72-78%
Flocculation: Medium
Optimum Fermentation Temperature: 65-69°F
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Does not ferment well less than 62°F(17°C), unless during active fermentation.
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Old 06-06-2012, 05:40 PM   #3
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Vienna and Northern Brewer hops are an amazing pair. I brewed a Vienna/Northern Brewer SMaSH that turned out very good. I don't think the decoction will be necessary as the Vienna is very flavorful and malty on it's own.
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Old 06-06-2012, 10:13 PM   #4
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All Vienna would be awfully dark for a Kölsch, no? Probably a nice beer, though, style specs be damned.

For hops, you can't miss with the German noble varieties. If it were mine I'd go with all Spalter and call it "alt".

 
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Old 06-06-2012, 10:47 PM   #5
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I did a Vienna/NB lager. OG was 1.042, with a single addition of an ounce at 60" for 30-something IBU. It did not taste anything like a Kölsch. Vienna is too rich and bready. You need Pils malt.
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Old 06-06-2012, 10:59 PM   #6
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If you want a SMaSH Kolsch you pretty much have to go the Pils/noble hop route. Anything else won't really be close to a Kolsch.
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I agree a good German Pils malt with a good German hop and your golden if you use the Kolsch yeast.
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I used two row and it was quite good. Pilsner is best, though
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I want a vienna lager style but don't want to use a lager yeast, because I can't control the ferment to 50 in my chamber.. but I have no problems to get it at 60 in my chamber... That is why I thought of a kolsch yeast? Does the kolsch yeast impart a very unique flavor or is it just a low temp clean flavor ale yeast.

I like the suggestions of Northern Brewer/Vienna

do you think the Kolsch yeast is a bad choice?

 
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I want a vienna lager style but don't want to use a lager yeast, because I can't control the ferment to 50 in my chamber.. but I have no problems to get it at 60 in my chamber... That is why I thought of a kolsch yeast? Does the kolsch yeast impart a very unique flavor or is it just a low temp clean flavor ale yeast.

I like the suggestions of Northern Brewer/Vienna

do you think the Kolsch yeast is a bad choice?
Kolsch yeast best fermented in the upper 60's. It's a relatively clean yeast but there should be some fruity hints to a true Kolsch. If you want a just plain clean yeast go with chico (us-05, wl001, wy1056).
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