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Old 06-06-2012, 01:27 AM   #1
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I've used WLP-001, 1056 and S-05; most recently a lot of S-05. I'm confident I get a very weird ester profile from S-05. I have food temp control in my fridge; typically ferment 62-64F. I have fermented using closed-vessel fermentation on the last 4 batches with S-05. I do not like the flavor S-05 introduces. What yeasts do you all prefer for hop forward beers?
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Old 06-06-2012, 01:31 AM   #2
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I've noticed (after hearing others say it) that s05 gets weird "peach" esters when it's fermented below 65 degrees. I'm usually a fan of fermenting ales at 62-64 degrees, but not with S05 anymore.

I like WLP001 at 65-68 degrees for hoppy beers, and I'm finding that I really like pacman yeast below 65 degrees for those same beers. I don't have any pacman right now so I'm using the 001 a lot, and I really like it.

It's strange, but I also like Wyeast 1335, a British strain, at cool temperatures for hops forward American ales. It seems to help make the hops stand out, and give a dry finish.
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Old 06-06-2012, 01:52 AM   #3
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I go for the 001 myself when making those styles. Typically ferment @ 68. Nice clean profile.

 
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Old 06-06-2012, 02:15 AM   #4
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I mainly use the 001 between 64-68 F for APA and IPA. Always turns out dry and hop forward.

 
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Old 06-06-2012, 02:50 AM   #5
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I've noticed (after hearing others say it) that s05 gets weird "peach" esters when it's fermented below 65 degrees. I'm usually a fan of fermenting ales at 62-64 degrees, but not with S05 anymore.

I like WLP001 at 65-68 degrees for hoppy beers, and I'm finding that I really like pacman yeast below 65 degrees for those same beers. I don't have any pacman right now so I'm using the 001 a lot, and I really like it.

It's strange, but I also like Wyeast 1335, a British strain, at cool temperatures for hops forward American ales. It seems to help make the hops stand out, and give a dry finish.
Plus 1 on pacman...I will do 60 on apa and IPA with pacman

 
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Old 06-06-2012, 03:19 AM   #6
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I always thought S05, 1056 and WLP001 were the same strain. Is this not the case?

I've always found all 3 pretty to be darned clean fermenting in the high 60's.

 
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Old 06-06-2012, 05:40 AM   #7
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I always thought S05, 1056 and WLP001 were the same strain. Is this not the case?

I've always found all 3 pretty to be darned clean fermenting in the high 60's.
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Old 06-06-2012, 11:46 AM   #8
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Perhaps my mistake is fermenting in the 64-65 range; all though closed-vessel pressurized fermentation is claimed to suppress esters. Is Pacman available year round?
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Old 06-06-2012, 11:48 AM   #9
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Pacman is year round. You have to get if from one of the big shops like NB, Rebel etc.

 
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Old 06-06-2012, 12:21 PM   #10
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wyeast 1272 is supposed to bring out the hops a little bit. i've never used it though

 
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