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Old 05-30-2012, 09:51 PM   #1
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Grumble... was sent the wrong size. I received my control panel enclosure from Pioneer Breaker today. I had ordered a 14x14x8 -- but it was out of stock until July. After a couple rounds of email and a phone call, they decided to send out a 16x16 -- however, they neglected to tell me it was 6" depth, I would have taken the 12" depth. Long story short, anyone shoving their PIDs and relays in a 6" depth enclosure?

edit: After a phone call w/ Pioneer Breaker we swapped it out for a 16x16x12. Great customer service, easy to get on the phone too. Won't have any problems with this size and it'll make some future plans easier.

 
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Old 05-30-2012, 11:10 PM   #2
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6" should be fine if you are mounting a standard 1/16 pid (like the aubers).

they are around 4" deep.

So just watch your component placement behind the pid (leave adequate spacing of a few inches for door swing) and you should be fine.

 
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Old 05-31-2012, 01:23 AM   #3
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You won't get anything behind it except for terminal blocks. Contactors and breakers are all going to be too tall. Check out the link in my sig line and for two PIDs, I wouldn't go any smaller than 16x12x8. I found the space to be fairly tight for what I was working with.

 
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Old 05-31-2012, 01:58 AM   #4
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But you have a 16x16 so more surface mounting space. Go for it.
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Old 05-31-2012, 02:08 AM   #5
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As long as you don't place your inside goodies close to the PID you're golden.

 
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Old 05-31-2012, 02:29 AM   #6
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I'm adding a second panel to accomodate the power distribution and circuit breakers. No cramming components in or clearance problems that way.
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Old 05-31-2012, 02:57 AM   #7
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I'm adding a second panel to accomodate the power distribution and circuit breakers. No cramming components in or clearance problems that way.
It is fine for most of us ...maybe not for you. If that pic is real ..

 
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Old 05-31-2012, 10:18 AM   #8
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I think mine is 6x6x6

 
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Old 06-02-2012, 04:58 PM   #9
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Quote:
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6" should be fine if you are mounting a standard 1/16 pid (like the aubers).

they are around 4" deep.

So just watch your component placement behind the pid (leave adequate spacing of a few inches for door swing) and you should be fine.
I got 3 auberins 1/16 PIDs, a contactor, 2 SSRs, DIN rail breakers, a safe start relay, 6 selector switches (some with double stacked contact blocks), and a 110 duplex receptacle in a 12x12x6.

I don't have a photo handy, but the basic gist of the layout is something like this. Divide into 3 rows. Top left, the power comes in. Remainder of the top is the SSRs and relays for the heating elements. Middle 3rd is the three PIDs. All of their wiring routes to the inside surface of the faceplate, then into the enclosure in 2 bundles (one for power wiring, one for the controls wiring). Bottom row has the breakers and DIN terminal blocks, switches on the faceplate, outlet mounted through the side.

Power to the elements is routed out the top right via a watertight conduit to a pair of boxes for the element plugs.

 
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