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Old 05-26-2012, 01:37 AM   #1
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5 lbs Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 2 43.5 %
5 lbs White Wheat Malt (2.4 SRM) Grain 3 43.5 %
1 lbs Chocolate Wheat Malt (400.0 SRM) Grain 4 8.7 %
8.0 oz Oats, Flaked (1.0 SRM) Grain 5 4.3 %
0.40 oz Magnum [14.00 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 6 20.1 IBUs
0.30 oz Centennial [9.00 %] - Boil 0.0 min Hop 7 0.0 IBUs
0.30 oz Willamette [5.50 %] - Boil 0.0 min Hop 8 0.0 IBUs

BIAB Mash at 152 for 60 mins, ferment at 67.

Looking for thoughts/feedback? I brewed this today, was hoping for a very dark version of an american wheat but not quite the taste of a dunkelweizen. Was thinking a little creamier mildly roastier version of an american wheat ale.

It's essentially Jamil's american wheat with 1 lb of Weyermann's Chocolate Wheat malt subbed in for Wheat and 1/2 lb of Oats subbed in for some 2 row. Also used Magnum instead of Horizon for bittering hops. Kept the aroma hops the same.

Appreciate any feedback, thanks!

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Old 06-03-2012, 03:07 AM   #2
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I think it will be amazing, especially if I get a bottle!


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Had an OG of 1.062 (got a 81% efficiency...usually get 70-75%)

FG of 1.015. Fermented it around 65-66.

Sample tastes fantastic, just waiting for an empty keg to transfer and Carb.
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I think it will be amazing, especially if I get a bottle!
Jason,

Hopefully putting this into a keg in the next week or so. Just tapped Jamil's Red Rocket Clone. So freakin' tasty. I'll bring you a bottle next week (grabbed one of Bowie's bottlers).

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Here's one week on CO2... not completely carbed yet. True pitch black color, dark tan head, light hefe nose, some roasty taste, a little more than expected. A finishing hefe taste with just a light banana and clove. Definitely a creamy mouth feel.

Will try another pint in a week, but right now would try reducing the chocolate wheat a bit to let more of the hefe flavors come through...maybe 0.5-0.75 lbs per 5 gals.
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any updates? im about to give this a try.
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I finally tapped that keg this week. Definitely a good drinkable beer, but it was a bit more roasty than I was hoping for. The roast covered up any of the Hefe character that I was looking for. If I were to do it again, I would cut the Chocolate Wheat back to either 1/2 or 3/4 lb.

That would probably allow more of the hefe flavors to come through. Let me know what you think of it...
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I finally tapped that keg this week. Definitely a good drinkable beer, but it was a bit more roasty than I was hoping for. The roast covered up any of the Hefe character that I was looking for. If I were to do it again, I would cut the Chocolate Wheat back to either 1/2 or 3/4 lb.

That would probably allow more of the hefe flavors to come through. Let me know what you think of it...
If you're goal was to just make a black hefe, there are dark grains out there that provide darkness but with much less roasted flavors. I used Black Prinz in mine and it did a good job, you could also consider the debittered blacks out there (Carafa I-II-II dehusked), etc.

Chocolate malt is good to make a dunkel.

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If you're goal was to just make a black hefe, there are dark grains out there that provide darkness but with much less roasted flavors. I used Black Prinz in mine and it did a good job, you could also consider the debittered blacks out there (Carafa I-II-II dehusked), etc.

Chocolate malt is good to make a dunkel.

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I agree 100% with you. I really wanted to just try out the Chocolate Wheat grain... Was going for a beer just a tad bigger and darker than a dunkel, but without a strong overpowering roastiness. Still just wanted some hefeweizen yeast character in there. The 1lb was prob a bit too much, thinking 1/2-3/4lb would be perfect.

However isn't wheat huskless? So theoretically shouldnt the Chocolate Wheat be similar to the dehusked dark grains?


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However isn't wheat huskless? So theoretically shouldnt the Chocolate Wheat be similar to the dehusked dark grains?
Yes it is. I misread you and thought you meant chocolate malt (barley).

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