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Old 07-02-2007, 06:19 AM   #1
Dec 2006
Northern Vermont
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Hello all,

Looking for a little advice.. I am going to be making a brew for our family's Annual Labor Day End of Summer Bash.
I am really new to brewing and sofar have only 1 beer under my belt.. the question is.. Most my family drinks BMC type beers tho a few will Drink Sam Adams Summer Ale.
I am looking for a style or even a recipie that has the best chance of being enjoyed by the family.. I have some Ideas but thought I would default to the best resource for beer that I have... You guys!


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Old 07-02-2007, 07:06 AM   #2
Jul 2006
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I'd go with a simple pale ale recipe
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Old 07-02-2007, 08:31 AM   #3
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Feb 2006
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My first brew was one that everyone liked. Even the BMC drinkers. It was pretty simple and was easy to make. all you need is:
1 can Cooper's Drought liquid extract.
3 pounds light dried malt extract.
The Cooper's is hopped and when the beer is complete you end up with a nice beer that isn't over powering with malt or hop bitterness. It was definitely better than Bud!

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Old 07-02-2007, 12:23 PM   #4
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Another vote for a pale ale.

Or maybe a hefeweizen. Most of the "sophisticated" BMC drinkers I know actually really love hefeweizens. It's different enough from BMC so that they don't do an apples-to-apples comparison, but it's still got a very smooth easy-drinking character that is familiar to BMC drinkers. They just have to get over the cloudiness.

Otherwise, pale ale or an ESB is the way to go. ESB is cool because it's a historic style. You get to tell a story as you serve it. A good story always makes beer taste better.....

An Extra Special Bitter isn't necessarily a very bitter beer. "Bitter" is just the british way of differentiating kiddy-beer from grown up beer. Back in the day in merry old London when the water was unsafe to drink, everybody drank beer. Generally though, it wasn't a good idea to send the kiddies off to school after a pint of high-proof beer, so the kids got beers designated as "Milds" which were somewhere around 2.5% to 3.5%ABV.

Then for the adults, there were "Bitters". They weren't necessarily bitter, but they were for grown ups. My imagination tells me that they called them "Bitters" mostly to discourage the kids from wanting them. LOL. So anyway, bitters weren't terribly bitter and they still aren't. The thing that makes a bitter a bitter is the alcohol content, generally between 3.0% and 3.7%. Remember, that the world wasn't interconnected back then like it is today, so there is some overlap and regional variation in these styles... Anyway, if the grownups wanted a stronger drink, they would order a Best Bitter or a Special Bitter which was generally between 4.1 and 4.8% abv. Then there were the "Strong Bitters" or Extra Special Bitters which were as high as 5.8% ABV, or as low as 4.8%.

Nowadays, "Extra Special Bitters" are about the strength of beer that most people expect when they crack open a cold one....
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Old 07-02-2007, 12:33 PM   #5
Dec 2006
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I gave up on this long ago and just take a case of Miller lite/Coors light or whatever the request at that time is. Everyone else is happy and I didn't bother wasting my time and efforts

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Old 07-02-2007, 12:52 PM   #6
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the two commercial pale ales I tried were way too hoppy for 'uneducated' palettes if you ask me.

since its end o summer, I too would suggest a wheat beer, like a hef or even a wit.

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Old 07-02-2007, 01:12 PM   #7
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I have had good luck with a Heffe. Seems that most BMC drinkers do like them. I think that most don't like to admit it and hide in the closet when consuming.
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Old 07-02-2007, 01:57 PM   #8
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I agree about a wheat beer--maybe more like an American Wheat so people won't freak about the cloudiness.

In general, it's very hard to get dedicated BMC drinkers to drink anything else, if it were me, I'd weant to think long and hard about why I'd even want to try it. I'd make something you like that is a good summer beer and not worry too much about iof everyone will like it.

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Old 07-02-2007, 02:39 PM   #9
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Try a Mild and keep the ABV around 3.5%. Or an Ordinary Bitter (but don't call it a Bitter).
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Old 07-02-2007, 02:41 PM   #10
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I'd make an American wheat. That's a slam dunk.
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