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Old 06-29-2007, 06:18 PM   #1
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I think we all have run into what seems to be a brewing enigma. I just racked my belgian ale clone to 2ndary and it was great, except it was 35 percent to sweet. The FG was 1.013 though, so attenuation didn't seem a problem. My initial reaction was there may be just a unusual perception of sweetness due to the esters present. Then, i thought there may be other chemicals than sugars that lend sweetness that are not fermentable. If it was just non-fermentable sugars the FG would be higher,....right? Help. Here's the recipe:

6.6 lbs. Muntons Light malt extract syrup
.5 lb Muntons light malt extract powder
2 lb Light Candi Sugar
1.5 oz 4.6 AA Styrian Golding hops (bittering hop)
.75 oz 3.5 AA Saaz hops (bittering hop)
1 tsp Irish moss for 60 min
1 ounce Dried Ginger Root (boil 15 min)
1 ounce Bitter Orange peel (boil 15min)
Wyeast 1214 Belgian Ale
fermented around 68 degrees




 
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Old 06-29-2007, 06:24 PM   #2
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With 9 lbs of malt it looks like you had enough hops.

All beer is sweet. You have to add hops to bitter and balance it.


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Old 06-29-2007, 06:39 PM   #3
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sure... there seems to be enough bitterness given the bittering flavor of the orange peel and the hops.This recipe for belgian ale, and many like it, don't generally produce a beer this sweet.
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Old 06-29-2007, 06:43 PM   #4
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Are you certain of the FG? If you are talking about a 5 gallon batch I would be amazed if your FG wasn't higher, especially with the sweetness you are describing. Also that seems like a lot of sugar to me, but I am not really familiar with Belgian Ale recipes. It just seems that sugar is usually the main culprit in a sweet brew. You could add a stronger yeast for a drastic fix.
You can also add a hops tea or more wort if you are really unhappy with it.

 
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Old 06-29-2007, 06:48 PM   #5
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im sure that was the FG. hop tea and the yeast fix are interesting things to consider. thanks.
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Not really... Candy sugar is almost 100% fermentable so it wouldn't add sweetness to the beer.
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Old 06-29-2007, 06:56 PM   #7
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Not really... Candy sugar is almost 100% fermentable so it wouldn't add sweetness to the beer.
yeah dude!

 
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Old 06-29-2007, 07:09 PM   #8
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cheezydemon
It just seems that sugar is usually the main culprit in a sweet brew. .
Like Bobby sez

And it may seem counterintuitive but adding sugar makes a dryer not a sweeter beer.
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Old 06-29-2007, 07:19 PM   #9
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If you are tasting it during racking, before it is carbonated, it will taste sweet. Once you add carbonation, the carbonic acid will reduce the perceived sweetness and give it a little bite.
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Old 06-29-2007, 07:23 PM   #10
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If you are tasting it during racking, before it is carbonated, it will taste sweet. Once you add carbonation, the carbonic acid will reduce the perceived sweetness and give it a little bite.
hmmmm. yeah i know that the flavor will certainly "evolve," especially with a brew like this. i guess ive never had a beer that became less sweet-tasting though.


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