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Old 05-03-2012, 04:54 PM   #1
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Hi all,
I know this seems like a dumb question but i just made a pale ale (8lbs 2-row, 2lbs Vienna, .5lbs crystal 15L, 1oz Summit 60min, .5oz Cascade 30min, .25 Cascade 15min, .25oz Cascade 5min) all together with 75% efficincey this beer should be 5.8%ABV and have an IBU of 63. So would this still be a Pale Ale or would this be considered an IPA? When does a Pale Ale become an IPA? is it a certain number of IBU's?
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Old 05-03-2012, 05:01 PM   #2
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Style Guidelines for an APA

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Vital Statistics: OG: 1.045 – 1.060
IBUs: 30 – 45 FG: 1.010 – 1.015
SRM: 5 – 14 ABV: 4.5 – 6.2%

Commercial Examples: Sierra Nevada Pale Ale, Stone Pale Ale, Great Lakes Burning River Pale Ale, Bear Republic XP Pale Ale, Anderson Valley Poleeko Gold Pale Ale, Deschutes Mirror Pond, Full Sail Pale Ale, Three Floyds X-Tra Pale Ale, Firestone Pale Ale, Left Hand Brewing Jackman’s Pale Ale
Style Guidelines for an IPA

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Vital Statistics: OG: 1.056 – 1.075
IBUs: 40 – 70 FG: 1.010 – 1.018
SRM: 6 – 15 ABV: 5.5 – 7.5%

Commercial Examples: Bell’s Two-Hearted Ale, AleSmith IPA, Russian River Blind Pig IPA, Stone IPA, Three Floyds Alpha King, Great Divide Titan IPA, Bear Republic Racer 5 IPA, Victory Hop Devil, Sierra Nevada Celebration Ale, Anderson Valley Hop Ottin’, Dogfish Head 60 Minute IPA, Founder’s Centennial IPA, Anchor Liberty Ale, Harpoon IPA, Avery IPA
SO it is an IPA


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Old 05-03-2012, 05:10 PM   #3
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Thanks a lot! Super informative
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Old 05-03-2012, 05:12 PM   #4
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IMO it really depends on the balance between malt and hops, along with the intensity of the hop flavor/aroma. Your pale ale may have enough IBUs to be considered an IPA, but your late additions don't do it enough justice to be called a full fledged IPA in my experience. While hops will be present, they won't dominate the flavor profile in those amounts. For instance, Grand Teton's Sweetgrass APA falls into the IPA category by stats (6.0% ABV, 60 IBUs), yet they call it an APA. I tend to agree with them based on what it actually tastes like rather than just going by numbers.
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Ok. So I guess it can vary based on the dascression of the brewer. A mild IPA or a bitter pale ale. Regardless, I'm sure it will be good. I hope. I also added some ginger just to mix it up.
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alot of grey area now days. our p.a are like ipa's cuz we are some hop heads
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By taste; An APA is an easy drinker, goes down smooth (could be a high-end session beer) while an IPA is noticeably more bitter/hoppy and higher alcohol content and not something you would want to down several of in short order. I have an APA/IPA recipe I use and the only difference in the two recipes is more 2-row and more hops in the IPA version, both are awesome.
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Basically I was going for just that. I wanted to make a good session beer for under $20 with everything included. With all that I listed and a packet of dry yeast it was $19 something after tax. So if it's good I'll probably use it as my poor man recipe. I was gonna go back to the brew store today to make another one except replace the 2-row with American pale malt and get .5lbs of carapils. What do u think?
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"while an IPA is noticeably more bitter/hoppy and higher alcohol content and not something you would want to down several of in short order."

FAIL!!!!


"while an IPA is noticeably more bitter/hoppy and higher alcohol content and IS something you would want to down several of in short order."

SUCESS!!!!!

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"while an IPA is noticeably more bitter/hoppy and higher alcohol content and not something you would want to down several of in short order."

FAIL!!!!


"while an IPA is noticeably more bitter/hoppy and higher alcohol content and IS something you would want to down several of in short order."

SUCESS!!!!!

I was just going to make the similar comment...of course you want to down several in short order! That way you get more of the deliciousness faster!


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