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Old 05-02-2012, 05:13 PM   #1
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Hello all! I've decided to brew my second homebrew and I just got the ingredients in the mail. So my first question:

Has anyone ever used this kit?

The reason I ask is because it didn't come with a specific yeast and only reccomended a few. Here are the yeasts I got:

Safale US-05 dry yeast
White Labes California Ale yeast (came in a vial)
Wyeast Liquid American Yeast

Being that this is only my second beer, I don't know what benefits one yeast would have over the other. Questions two:

Which one is best?

Also, is one of them enough for a double IPA?

Thanks in advance to all responses!

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Tim


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Old 05-02-2012, 05:19 PM   #2
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i brewed that kit a few months ago and went with a double pitch of nottingham ale yeast, did not do a started just re-hydrated it. I dont think you can go wrong using WLP001 either i would just make a starter if you only have one vial. good luck mine turned out great.


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Old 05-02-2012, 05:31 PM   #3
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My choice would be to pitch an appropriate sized starter slurry of WLP001. It's the highest attenuating of the three and I believe what Russian River uses for this beer. You want to make sure you have adequate cell count for a high OG beer such as this one. Therefore, pitching one pack/vial on it's own would not be enough.
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Wlp001 or us05 would be fine, but watch your pitch rates. Use mrmalty.com to determine the proper pitch. Ill say this though, generally one pack of rehydrated us05 will contain more cells than one vial or wlp001. I would definitely rehydrate if using dry yeast.
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Old 05-03-2012, 08:13 AM   #5
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Thanks for the replies. I live in Italy and I think I am going to go with the US05 as I don't have the time to wait for another vial. Thanks again!
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us-05 will get the job done fine
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us-05 will get the job done fine
Not one small packet... and that's what the OP asked. One packet of US05 will produce alcohol, but no where near the same league as a Pliny clone.

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Also, is one of them enough for a double IPA?
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I'd go with bobbrews and WLP001 with a starter. It'll still be good beer with the single pack of us-05, but it'll be better with 2 packs.
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How about using all 3 yeasts?
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I brewed the same kit about 2 months ago and used the wlp001 yeast that they recommended on their website. I did a full boil for full hop utilization and made a 1L starter. Make sure you have a blow off instead of just an airlock because the fermentation will be very strong. It didn't ferment down to the expected FG so I ended up at 1.020 making the beer ~ 6.8% (2 weeks primary+ 2 weeks secondary). If I had to do it over, which I definitely will, I'd go with a 4L starter since it's such a big beer. Also, use a hop bag or you'll get tons of hop dregs. The final product was super hoppy and tasty but nothing like a Pliney. I just tell friends it's a dipa, not a clone.


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