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Old 06-22-2007, 08:18 PM   #21
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If it gets to the point where you have nothing to learn then it's time to give up.
If it gets to the point where you don't want to learn then it's time to find something else that's worth learning.
If it gets to the point where you know it all then it's not worth Knowing.
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Old 06-22-2007, 08:42 PM   #22
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If it gets to the point where you have nothing to learn then it's time to give up.
If it gets to the point where you don't want to learn then it's time to find something else that's worth learning.
If it gets to the point where you know it all then it's not worth Knowing.

I disagree.......


If you get to the point when you actually do know it all, then it's time to raise the bar even further for everyone else

 
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Old 06-22-2007, 09:12 PM   #23
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Kinda similar to the phenomenon that the least funny people...think they're friggin hilarious.

 
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Old 06-22-2007, 09:16 PM   #24
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Kinda similar to the phenomenon that the least funny people...think they're friggin hilarious.
Or when fat chicks think they're hot...
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Old 06-22-2007, 09:38 PM   #25
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Ho Lee Crap, Omar, isn't that the worst?!?! LMFAO

 
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Old 06-23-2007, 01:17 PM   #26
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I believe it was Mark Twain who said, "People who think they know everything are very annoying to those of us who actually do."


As it pertains to EACness, I think I have a realistic assessment of my knowledge. Back when I used to play a lot of chess, I knew just about every chess opening out to 20 or 30 moves- Queen's gambit, Benko, Benoni, Ruy Lopez, English, etc etc... I also knew a ton of end games and was a pretty good player. Now, on the one hand, I definitely was acutely aware of how LITTLE I knew... I didn't have my master rating and was really nowhere close to competing with those guys. On the other hand, if someone wanted to argue about how the horsey moved, well, I was certainly credentialled enough to call them an idiot if they disagreed with me.

So too is the case with EACness. Though there are few people here with the in-depth knowledge that a true expert would have, we nevertheless are more than qualified to say that something made with bread yeast and 5 pounds of table sugar is going to taste like a$$....


This is also reminiscent of the whole, "everyone is special, everybody is good at everything" mentality that kids are raised with. My uncle enrolled his kid in Teeball. Every kid bats every inning. There are no outs. If thrown out at first, you stay on first. Then, every kid runs the bases after the last kid bats.

Where the hell is the sense of accomplishment in that? Where the hell are the realistic expectations? The times I felt the most empowered, the most intelligent, the most capable, were the times when I did something difficult. To make matters worse, it seems to me that the longer you keep feeding kids unrealistic expectations, the more likely they are to snap when they meet the real world.
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Old 06-23-2007, 03:11 PM   #27
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I couldn't disagree more. Seems to me that most people around here think they have a TON to learn.
No. I've only been brewing for a couple of years, but I know much more than most people know about it.

 
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Old 06-23-2007, 03:19 PM   #28
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Quote:
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Seems to me that most people around here think they have a TON to learn.
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No. I've only been brewing for a couple of years, but I know much more than most people know about it.
Those two statements aren't mutually exclusive. But it could explain the underpinnings of what it means to be an EAC. You at least have an appreciation for the things that you don't know... and perhaps a certain confidence/arrogance regarding that which you do know... or some impatience with regard to people who question the simplest of things...
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