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Old 04-17-2012, 08:38 PM   #1
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I presume that beer was originally made from just malted grain, without the addition of hops. I'm wondering if there are any styles remaining that don't use any hops?

 
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Old 04-17-2012, 08:43 PM   #2
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Well, there's gruit, but that's replacing hops with other bittering herbs.

Are you talking about malt-only? I.e., everything the same as a normal batch, but no hops?

 
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Old 04-17-2012, 08:46 PM   #3
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If you don't have some sort of preserving agent, such as hops, or the ingredients mentioned in gruit, the "beer" will sour quickly. Hops are the most common, primarily because they work the best over any of the other less common ones.
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Old 04-17-2012, 08:48 PM   #4
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Are you talking about malt-only? I.e., everything the same as a normal batch, but no hops?
Yeah that's what I was wondering.

 
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Old 04-17-2012, 08:49 PM   #5
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If you don't have some sort of preserving agent, such as hops, or the ingredients mentioned in gruit, the "beer" will sour quickly. Hops are the most common, primarily because they work the best over any of the other less common ones.
Ah, interesting. Is there a minimum amount of hops required to get the "preservation" quality?

 
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Well, think about an american light lager it has only around 8 – 12 IBUs. Barely enough for most folks to detect, yet it doesn't spoil.
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Revvy - how quick is "quickly"? I've wondered the same thing as Ecky but never tried it because I think hops are tasty

 
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Revvy - how quick is "quickly"? I've wondered the same thing as Ecky but never tried it because I think hops are tasty
I don't know. I do know that if you make starters in the summer the starter beer often goes sour in a couple days, that's why some folks add hops. Hate to try that on 5 gallons.

Boiling alone kills off stuff already in the wort, but doesn't protect it from post boil nasties.
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Old 04-17-2012, 09:33 PM   #9
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Old 04-17-2012, 09:50 PM   #10
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What a great site! Definitely going to give some of those recipes a shot.
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