Wyeast 3724 all-grain saison - Home Brew Forums

Register Now!
Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > Fermentation & Yeast > Wyeast 3724 all-grain saison

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 04-09-2012, 08:48 PM   #1
Zokfend
Recipes 
 
Feb 2011
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Posts: 76


I'm doing an all grain saison with wyeast 3724 yeast. Recipe requires transfer to secondary and dry hopping after fermentation has considerably slowed down, "between 5 and 7 days" it says. I'm also doing a temp ramp-up by starting temp at 68, and ramping up to 80 degrees during course of fermentation. I did this temp ramp-up on a previous saison, and it turned out great. Wyeast talks about 3724 needing higher temps anyway.

What I'm doing DIFFERENTLY from the recipe is keeping wort in the primary for longer than 5 to 7 days. I'd prefer it stay on the cake for two weeks before I transfer to secondary and dry hop. I think majority of fermentation will be done by that time, and I'd rather do as much fermentation in primary as possible. It's been 7 days in primary and fermentation is still steady as she goes.

The 3724 saison yeast has an unusual behavior, and I had to do some unusual stuff the last time I did a saison.

Does anybody think my approach is cause for concern?

 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2012, 03:09 PM   #2
SnidelyWhiplash
Recipes 
 
Feb 2012
cincinnati, OH
Posts: 100

bumping for any help with this yeast.

any recommendation on if you should transfer to secondary or how long you should leave it ferment at a specific temperature? It sounds like this yeast will considerably slow down and settle before its done, so you want to shake it up to re suspend yeast and keep the temp high, especially for weeks 2+. just not sure if you even want to transfer to secondary or if its better to keep all the extra yeast in there.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2012, 04:18 PM   #3
AmandaK
Recipes 
 
Feb 2010
KCMO
Posts: 1,500
Liked 142 Times on 106 Posts


I would NOT transfer to a secondary with this yeast. I would leave it for 3-5 weeks.
__________________
BJCP Master Beer Judge

 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2012, 04:32 PM   #4
phenry
Recipes 
 
Feb 2011
Clemson, SC
Posts: 1,222
Liked 121 Times on 73 Posts


First off, pitch a big starter and don't let your fermentation temps ever go down. I've used this yeast a few times and it really hates cooling off while it's still fermenting. If it doesn't stall at the dreaded 1.030, it can easily be finished in a week and a half. By that time, feel free to transfer it. But do keep in mind this yeast will finish pretty dry (below 1.010 every time I've used it) with a low mash temp, so definitely don't try jumping the gun.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2012, 06:20 PM   #5
zacster
Recipes 
 
Jan 2008
Brooklyn, NY
Posts: 1,125
Liked 38 Times on 31 Posts


I'm starting a batch right now, and I'm using this yeast. It's been pretty hot this summer so I'm hopeful that I won't need to do anything special with it. In any case, I had originally planned on using Wyeast Northwest ale on this brew, my Nude Beach Blond Ale. If it gets stuck should I just use the Northwest to finish it off? Or should I use the French Saison instead to keep it in the same family? I'm sure I'd have a great beer either way.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2012, 08:34 PM   #6
MudduckBrewing
Recipes 
 
Jul 2012
Saint Paul, MN
Posts: 19
Liked 2 Times on 2 Posts


I believe I heard Neva Parker say this strain has a higher oxygen requirement, which may be why it stalls. You may want to try adding more oxygen when you pitch.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-29-2012, 01:44 AM   #7
zacster
Recipes 
 
Jan 2008
Brooklyn, NY
Posts: 1,125
Liked 38 Times on 31 Posts


Luckily I did that when I added the yeast. I gave it a much more vigorous shake than I usually do. It was all foam when I was done.

We'll see how it turns out.

 
Reply With Quote


Reply
Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Wyeast 3724 Belgian Saison - they were right! SavageSteve Fermentation & Yeast 332 08-10-2016 03:41 AM
Wyeast belgian 3724 Saison questions DansBrew Fermentation & Yeast 14 06-06-2014 05:32 PM
WYEAST 3724 Belgian Saison brewguy82 Fermentation & Yeast 12 08-02-2011 05:36 PM
Wyeast 3724 (Saison)-How hot too hot?? BrewDey Fermentation & Yeast 3 07-22-2011 11:24 AM
Need Help - Wyeast 3724 Belgian Saison ZooKeeper Fermentation & Yeast 14 12-18-2010 02:09 AM


Forum Jump