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Old 01-02-2009, 12:18 AM   #721
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Took a six pack over to a New Years party last night, i wanted to see what my friends thought of my first all grain brew. They all loved it. this recipe will be made again
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Old 01-03-2009, 08:22 PM   #722
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Ed - do you think it would drastically change the recipe to use Crystal as the bittering hop here? I have lots of it and am looking for a good use, from the flavor profile it seems that, as a bittering hop, it would do just about the same as the Cascade, but take a little more of it.
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Old 01-04-2009, 12:30 AM   #723
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Ed - do you think it would drastically change the recipe to use Crystal as the bittering hop here? I have lots of it and am looking for a good use, from the flavor profile it seems that, as a bittering hop, it would do just about the same as the Cascade, but take a little more of it.
I would not recommend it. Crystal is basically an American Hallertau substitute. It's a noble hop used for pilsners and lagers.

I would use Centennial or Amarillo and match AAU's.
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Old 01-04-2009, 12:40 AM   #724
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Crystal is the only hop used in Roques Brutal Bitter...so I think it would work nicely or be a nice experiment
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hehe, well, ed was 9 minutes after I put the hops in, so I will call it a nice experiment. Maybe I will send him a bottle so he can compare it to the real deal and see if I ruined his popular beer
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hehe, well, ed was 9 minutes after I put the hops in, so I will call it a nice experiment. Maybe I will send him a bottle so he can compare it to the real deal and see if I ruined his popular beer
Brutal Bitter is damn good, so I think you should send me one also
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lets see how it turns out first

I am pretty sure I had an issue getting the top off water mixed in, at least that's what I hope. I ended up a little over a half gallon shy after doing a 75 minute boil and my SG is only 1.04. That would be 58% efficiency which I can't fathom is true. I think I am going to do some more mixing and try and take another reading in a little while.
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I made up 5 gallons yesterday afternoon, and it started bubbling away today. Looks great and smells great. My girlfriend was walking in and out of the kitchen when I was brewing and noted that the wort had a nice smell and color to it.

Too bad it took nearly 5 hours to make! I enjoy making all grain brews but my electric stove top is killing me. I guess I'll have to eventually make the move outside with a turkey fryer.
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Not to brag, but I did this for my first AG and had the current NY state home brewer of the year had a sample and gave it a thumbs up.
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thanks for the awesome recipe Ed! i have brewed this once and am planning a batch for this weekend. my LHBS is out of munich and doesnt carry vienna, i am thinking english pale ale malt for substitute. What does everyone think? (i have a sack of vienna on back order so this can wait if it has to...)
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