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Old 04-02-2012, 12:34 AM   #1
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Edit: Please note that I have come up with a new recipe that is probably much closer to the original Pako's. It's on page 5 of this thread.

I'm hoping to come up with a semblance of Snake River's Pako's Eye-P-A. One of the brewery guys gave me the ingredient list and gravities and said "heavy on the finishing & dry hops." the website says 6.8% abv and 60+ ibus. So here's what I've come up with using BrewPal:

6gal batch
13.25# 2 row
1# dark carastan 35l
.75# dark munich 20l

20g columbus 13% - 60min
14g columbus - 15min
14g simcoe 13% - 15min
14g columbus - 5min
14g simcoe - 5min
14g columbus - 1min
14g simcoe - 1min

28g each simcoe & columbus - dry hop

Mash at 151
Yeast - safale us05

This gives me a 1.063 starting gravity, 1.013 finshing; 6.6% abv; & 61 ibus. I was told the final gravity is 2.5 deg plato which is about 1.010 but i can't figure out how to get those last 3 points. I'm not too worried about it but am open to suggestions.

Any thoughts on the recipe in general?

Reason: changed 60 min addition

 
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Old 04-02-2012, 02:07 AM   #2
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A longer mash might help to gain a few extra points
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Old 04-02-2012, 02:51 AM   #3
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what mash temp are you planning. A lower mash temp not a longer one will give you better attenuation. you could also replace some of the base malt with simple sugar like corn sugar or honey.

also why the two different hop varieties at 60 minutes? Would be better to conserve the precious simcoe and just use more columbus or something cheaper.

 
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Old 04-02-2012, 12:12 PM   #4
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Planning to go with 152 but maybe 150 will be better. I lowered the mash temp in brewpal but it didn't change the gravity, one of its flaws, i guess. Glad it was only $0.99. Might extend the mash time a bit to make sure it fully converts too.

It's all columbus & simcoe so i thought I'd combine them for all of the additions but it totally makes sense to use just the columbus for the 60 minute. I'm new at formulating recipes and it didn't occur to me to use just one bittering hop, even though every batch I've ever made has had only one...duh.

 
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Old 04-02-2012, 12:20 PM   #5
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Use a teaspoon of yeast nutrient if you are really wanting to knock the FG down as far as possible. When I mashed at 150 and used us05 I had trouble going too far. My 1050 beer finished at 1.005

 
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Old 04-04-2012, 10:59 AM   #6
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Okay, so I think for my first try I'll stick with the above except I'll bump the bittering addition to 20g columbus & drop the simcoe and I'll mash at 149 to try & dry it out. I think I'll try the yeast nutrient too. I have some that I use for starters but have never used it in a batch. Thanks for the feedback, I'll let you know how it turns out.

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Old 05-09-2012, 05:00 AM   #7
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Can't wait to hear how this turns out. I had a Pako's recently and absolutely loved it. Been wanting to get a good IPA homebrew going, so this thread was perfect timing.

Any thoughts on what you'd do for the malt if you were going extract with specialty grains? (I'm a newbie.)

 
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Old 05-09-2012, 05:24 AM   #8
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Don't forget to add gypsum to the boil.....

 
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Old 05-09-2012, 11:22 AM   #9
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Substitute 8# DME for the 2 row and steep the other grains as usual. And yes, I would add some gypsum to boil unless you have pretty hard water.

I brewed this last thursday and was just a couple points over my target OG, the fermenter smells heavenly. Looking forward to a sample in another week or so.

 
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Old 05-09-2012, 11:47 AM   #10
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Don't forget to add gypsum to the boil.....
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