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Old 03-26-2012, 01:21 PM   #1
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Has anyone ever tried to clone this? I had this on a trip to WY a couple years ago and it was wonderful. I'd love to make something close to it. Any ideas?

Their website only mentions "6.8% ABV and 60+ IBUs with explosive hop aroma from a pungent Simcoe/Columbus blend." So I guess I know what the flameout & dry hop additions are.

 
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Old 03-26-2012, 02:09 PM   #2
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It's a great beer - won gold this year at GABF I think. I recommend emailing the brewery. Friendly folks over there.

 
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Old 03-26-2012, 03:17 PM   #3
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might try that.

 
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Old 11-12-2012, 04:48 PM   #4
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I stumbled upon this thread in a search for a clone of Pakos. I sent a message to Snake River and I'll let you guys know if I get a response.
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Old 11-13-2012, 12:20 PM   #5
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I never followed up on this thread but I emailed them and came up with a recipe. Check the thread here: http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f12/thou...recipe-317907/.

 
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Old 11-13-2012, 12:27 PM   #6
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I've only brewed it once but in my initial recipe I would maybe bump up the Munich and drop the Carastan/Caramel amount to a half pound. It was a little sweeter than I was shooting for, but still a great beer. I think next time I'll try FWH'ing too and I might even go a little heavier on the Columbus than the Simcoe for the late additions. I'm unable to get the beer here unless I want to pay $40 for them to send a 12 pack to me, so I have nothing with which to compare it. Everybody who had it absolutely loved it.

 
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Old 11-20-2012, 02:37 PM   #7
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I stumbled upon this thread in a search for a clone of Pakos. I sent a message to Snake River and I'll let you guys know if I get a response.
Hey, Did you hear back from them? Just curious to see if they told you anything different than they told me.

 
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Old 11-20-2012, 02:57 PM   #8
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Yeah, he sent this:

Glad you like the Pako's. I scaled it down to five gallons for you on this recipe. It's only about 60 IBUs most of the hop perception comes from the dry hops. Don't spare the simcoes!

note the kettle hops are in grams and you'll have to interpolate the dry hops at a rate of 1.1 pounds per barrel (31 us gallons)

OG is 15.5 plato which I think is going to roughly be 1062 sg, you better check my math on that.

If you're using extract you'll just need something that will give a light version of that english pale color.

But you can see the grain bill in the recipe.

Happy Brewing!

OG: 1.063
Pale Malt - 8.82 lbs.
Cara Munich 34 - .19 lb.
Munich - .52 lb.

Mash temp: 149*

He said they do a 2 hour boil for Pako's.
Here's the hop schedule:
.48 oz. Columbus - 2 hours
.58 oz. Simcoe - 2 hours
.21 oz. Columbus - 1 hour 45 min.
.25 oz. Simcoe - 1 hour 45 min.
.375 oz. Columbus - 30 min.

Gypsum added at 30 min.

2.75 oz. Simcoe (dry hop)
2.75 oz. Columbus (dry hop)

The recipe didn't specify how long they dry hop for, but I assume 7 days.
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Old 11-20-2012, 03:22 PM   #9
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Wow, thanks! That's a really interesting recipe.

I'm really surprised at all the early hop additions and NO late hop additions. How the heck is it only 60 IBU w/boiling 1.5oz of high alpha hops for 2 hours? And honestly, I just don't think I could bring myself to boil Simcoe for 2 hours.

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Old 11-20-2012, 03:24 PM   #10
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Yeah, I was really confused when I saw that. No flavor or aroma hops besides the dry hops either. I have a feeling that maybe he wasn't telling me everything.
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