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Old 03-15-2012, 03:42 PM   #1
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I really like the piney taste in Torpedo and the bitter of Ranger. I'd like some sort of combination with some citrus as well. I'm aiming for close to 70 IBUs.

6 1/4 lbs pilsen LME
8 oz crystal 20
8 oz crystal 40
3/4 oz Chinook @ 60 mins
1/2 oz ea Centennial & Chinook @ 15 mins
1/4 oz Centennial + 1/2 oz Chinook @ 5 mins
1/4 oz ea Centennial & Chinook dry hopped
American Ale II

1.057/1.015
8* SRM
65.2 IBUs
5.6% ABV
3.3 gal avg boil
4 gal yield

Changes? Opinions?
I have read of the distaste of Chinook by many here. The LHBS doesn't carry anything else with a piney description.
Also available is Brewer's Gold, Galena, Magnum, and Warrior with a high AA.

 
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Old 03-15-2012, 03:48 PM   #2
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I like it! Torpedo has a distinct taste of "citra" hops in the finish, though. If you really want that fruity flavor also, you'll need some citra. I like the recipe as is, except I'd increase the centennial late in the boil. Instead of 1/4 oz, go with at least 1/2 oz.
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Old 03-15-2012, 03:50 PM   #3
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I like it! Torpedo has a distinct taste of "citra" hops in the finish, though. If you really want that fruity flavor also, you'll need some citra. I like the recipe as is, except I'd increase the centennial late in the boil. Instead of 1/4 oz, go with at least 1/2 oz.
Yooper, I had a torpedo lastnight and didn't find much citrus in the taste. It definitely had a layer in the aroma, though. I checked the website and they said they only used citra in dry hopping. That would explain the aroma presence but lack of taste presence that I experienced, correct? Or is this noob way off base???

 
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Old 03-15-2012, 03:50 PM   #4
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Dont fear Chinook. It bitters nicely. Makes a great late addition too.

Edit: Personally, Id use more on the 60 minute addition. Thats just me....

 
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Old 03-15-2012, 03:53 PM   #5
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Yooper, I had a torpedo lastnight and didn't find much citrus in the taste. It definitely had a layer in the aroma, though. I checked the website and they said they only used citra in dry hopping. That would explain the aroma presence but lack of taste presence that I experienced, correct? Or is this noob way off base???
Yes, I think so. Citra doesn't taste citrusy to me- it really screams MANGO to me. It's a tropical fruit flavor, more than citrus, and I pick that up in Torpedo. I'm not a huge fan of citra, though, so I don't use it much. It's fine in the aroma in Torpedo, though. I did make an all-citra (except for bittering) APA and I did not like it. It tasted like Juicy Fruit gum to me. I ended up dryhopping with some cascade, which helped. Others really liked it. But I won't be doing it again, that's for sure!
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Old 03-15-2012, 04:06 PM   #6
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Yooper: Trying to keep from having leftover hops. I could separate the Centennial into thirds or .3 (15 min) .4 (5 min) .3 (dry hop). What would you suggest?

 
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Old 03-15-2012, 04:09 PM   #7
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Wobbegong: Where would you rob some Chinook from to add to the 60 min portion? I'm trying to keep from having leftover hops and the overall cost down (doing a 4 gal wheat ale too).

 
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Old 03-15-2012, 04:14 PM   #8
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Should I break down and add an oz of Cascade as well? Split it in thirds for the 15/5/dry hop? What's another $2...

 
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Old 03-15-2012, 04:30 PM   #9
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Once again, this is to my taste from my experience with the two...

I think instead of using equal parts centennial and chinook in the late additions, I'd tune back the chinook and move some to the 60 min for more bittering.

I've made a few versions of chinook and centennial IPA's and found I got more balance between the two with a 2 part centennial 1 part chinook combo. I found the chinook overpowered the centennial when equal volumes were used in late additions and dry hop.

 
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Old 03-15-2012, 04:39 PM   #10
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Is it too piney? Or just drowns out the rest?

 
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