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Old 03-15-2012, 12:19 AM   #1
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Hey Guys,
So to make it as quick as possible, I need some advice. I started brewing in late September, and in November came in second place for my pumpkin porter... I'm now hooked- still at the begginer/partial mash level though. I'm entering whenever I can... So to the advice.

I recently entered into my LHBC's monthly compitition for Scottish Ale. I did HOURS of genuine research and decided upon a recipie that would be pretty solid along the lines of a historical "Scottish Ale." It goes as follows...

1) 6.6# Bries Golden Light
2) Wheat Malt: .5#
3) Carapils: .5#
4) Roasted Barley Malt: 3 oz
5) Heather tips: 2 oz
6) Nottingham yeast

Due to short notice, it was in primary for 2 weeks, then bottle conditioned for two weeks (yes, it was a tad green but thankfully the carbonation built up)

So I got my results back and did pretty bad... I think it is pretty good, and follows BJCP style 9c pretty close to par, EXCEPT the heather did add the bitterness (the scotts used heather to suppliment an overpriced or hard to find hop) I scored a 29 and 31. No bueno. There is a regional AND a state compitition arriving and I would like to enter all my bottled beers. Now that I've burnt your ears/ eyes, two simple questions...

1) Should I enter the Scottish Ale as a catagory 9C or be safe and go with a 21A?

2) The state comp being 3.5 months away, what is a good & easy summer beer that would be well recieved at a comp?

Sorry for the long post, and thanks to all for your help!

-Florida Cracker

 
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Old 03-15-2012, 12:22 AM   #2
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Oh I forgot, I also used 1oz of East Kent Goldings...

 
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Old 03-15-2012, 12:25 AM   #3
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Just thought I would point out that a 29 and a 31 are not bad scores...especially for just beginning. That's awesome that you got second on your porter, but I wouldn't be discouraged by scores in the 30 range. Hopefully that came with some good feedback and you can take some advice away from it.

 
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Old 03-15-2012, 01:06 AM   #4
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Due to short notice, it was in primary for 2 weeks, then bottle conditioned for two weeks (yes, it was a tad green but thankfully the carbonation built up)
That's probably your issue. Although honest a 29 and 31 aren't bad scores at all. That's a solid B/B-.

 
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Old 03-16-2012, 02:36 AM   #5
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Well thanks guys for the words of support an encouragement. I guess my scores arn't that bad if that is a B/B- range.

As to my questions,

Should I keep my scot in 9C or move it to 21A?

Whats an easy beer that is great during the summer?

 
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Old 03-16-2012, 03:17 AM   #6
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Well thanks guys for the words of support an encouragement. I guess my scores arn't that bad if that is a B/B- range.

As to my questions,

Should I keep my scot in 9C or move it to 21A?

Whats an easy beer that is great during the summer?
Agreed on 30's being decent scores.

Can you smell or taste something that you associate with heather? If so, go 21B and mention both that the beer uses heather and where/when. Be warned that if you name an ingredient, judges will want to taste or smell it.

Saisons are great summer beers!
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Old 03-16-2012, 04:19 AM   #7

Hate to echo what others are saying, but...those are good scores. In case you forgot or didn't know, 29 is the top of the "Good" range and over 30 is "Very Good." Your expectations may be unrealistic, especially for a young beer.

Sorry I don't know enough about the style to comment more usefully.
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Old 03-16-2012, 04:22 AM   #8
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I would enter in category 23 as it is a reproduction of a historical style.

 
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Old 02-23-2013, 11:29 PM   #9
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Hey all just joined, looking for some advise. I want to enter a comp. with a southern English brown, but I added brown sugar. Would this make my beer a specialty beer or still a southern brown ale? Thanks

 
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Old 02-24-2013, 12:32 AM   #10
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The way the scoring works in BJCP is based entirely on how well the beer matches the description in the style guidelines. It has nothing to do with what the beer was originally designed or planned to be, but everything to do with how it smells, looks, tastes, and feels on the day of the competition, compared to the description of that style and using the commercial examples listed in the guidelines as a point of reference.

If the addition of the brown sugar significantly changed the character of the beer (e.g. it is now somewhat boozy from the additional sugar) then you might enter it into, say category 23 with an appropriate description and using southern english brown as the base or "classic" style for the entry. If it is basically the same then enter it as a southern english brown.

 
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