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Old 03-13-2012, 10:40 PM   #1
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Hi gang, new to brewing. Today I brewed my first beer that wasn't from a kit. Not confident enough to start all graining just yet, so I tried LME. I wanted a pale beer so I plumped for a light LME. The problem is that my wort looks very dark (see pic below). Any suggestions as to why this is? Here's my ingredients for 10 litres of beer :

250g crystal malt steeped at 67*C for 45mins.
1.5kg light liquid malt extract boiled for 60mins.
10g Chinook hops 60mins
5g Citra hops 15mins
15g Citra hops at flame out.



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Old 03-14-2012, 09:08 PM   #2
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Anyone at all?

 
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Old 03-14-2012, 09:12 PM   #3
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As I understand it, LME is notorious for creating a darker color than you want.

I would suggest reading about:
1) Late boil additions of LME
2) Switch to using primarily DME
3) Preventing scorching of LME

Other than that, the wort in the fermenter always looks darker than when in the glass but in your case it does seem that you may have scorched your LME.

 
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Old 03-14-2012, 09:13 PM   #4
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extract beers are hard to keep light especially if you do partial boils...Maillard reactions cause darkening during heating and they are more pronounced with higher gravities. What was the color of the crystal malt you used, what "L" number?

It will be lighter in the glass but still amber.

EDIT: Based on those textbooks in the pic you don't have time to brew!!!
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Old 03-14-2012, 09:15 PM   #5
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What type/color was the crystal malt (i.e. 20L, etc? And what was the color of the malt extract? Extract recipes always seem to yield darker beer than all-grain. What's in your fermentor can be deceiving. You're looking through a large volume of it so it appears darker than it really is. Also, when beer is first fermenting there is all kinds of stuff floating around in there(yeast, break material, hops material, etc.), which give it a darker appearance. When fermentation has finished and the beer settles I'm sure it will be lighter in color.

 
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Old 03-14-2012, 09:20 PM   #6
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That's why I use a couple pounds of DME in my partial boil for hop additions,& add the remaing DME & all the LME at flame out. No adverse reactions,least of all from a partial boil. Boiling LME for an hour will def darken it. Besides the fact that your looking through a wide deep fermenter with yeast in suspension. when it's in the glass,it'll look lighter. But that one looks like it'll still be a bit dark.
When using LME in the boil,it'll darken no matter what size boil you're doing. And it can still get that "extract twang" as a result of such reactions. And my extract bers aren't really darker than their AG counterparts. I've done some lighter colored ales myself. All extract at that. The game changes with extract,but the song remains the same.
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Old 03-14-2012, 09:20 PM   #7
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also when its in the FV it ALWAYS looks darker due to the high volume of liquid, when its in the glass it wont be nearly the same color. Also, many recommend adding most of your extract during the last 20 mins for color adjustment. I dont, I full boil extract, with great success, but to each their own, in any case, if its not going to judging... do you really care?

 
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EDIT: Based on those textbooks in the pic you don't have time to brew!!!
It looks more like brewing took over his studying since he is using the books as stands.

 
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Personally,yes. Why make my beer sub-par if it doesn't have to be? It's simple enough to come up with a process that gives good results,regardless of brewing style. And yes,the late extract method I came up with reading on here with a little imagination,made all the difference. Boy,did we have some arguments over hop utilization,etc in regard to the late extract addition method. There's tricks to every brewing style to get good beer.
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Old 03-14-2012, 10:37 PM   #10
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It's been said already, but I am pretty sure the "culprit" is the LME. The lightest extract brews I have done have all incorporated DME - all of the ones with LME have been pretty dark.

 
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