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Old 03-08-2012, 09:23 PM   #1
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My SWMBO likes Negra Modelo enough that she bought a 6 pack after trying one I was drinking at a Mexican restaurant.

Did some "searching" and there seems to be some disagreement as to weather it's an Austrian Pilsner (can't find a BJCP discription of this style) or a Munchen Dunkel.

I'd like to try to clone it for her but not sure where to start. There were a few recipies here online, but w/o a style base I'm not sure how accurate they were.

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Neither, I don't know where you read those, but it's considered a classic example of a vienna lager.

BJCP-03 Vienna Lager

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Commercial Examples: Great Lakes Eliot Ness (unusual in its 6.2% strength and 35 IBUs), Boulevard Bobs 47 Munich-Style Lager, Negra Modelo, Old Dominion Aviator Amber Lager, Gordon Biersch Vienna Lager, Capital Wisconsin Amber, Olde Saratoga Lager, Penn Pilsner
You can start by looking at My vienna lager recipe in my pulldown, and read the articles and listen to the podcast I cited.


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Old 03-08-2012, 09:27 PM   #3
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Vienna is your base (European Amber lager)

 
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Old 03-08-2012, 09:31 PM   #4
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Dammit Revvy, I'm seconds too slow.
Look for a Graf style Vienna Lager, named after (I believe) Santiago Graf, famed Mexican brewer.

 
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Also;

This is a great info page on brewing mexican beers.
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dammit revvy, i'm seconds too slow.
Look for a graf style vienna lager, named after (i believe) santiago graf, famed mexican brewer.
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Thank you Revvy, knew someone like you would come up with one. Will check them out now.
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Neither, I don't know where you read those, but it's considered a classic example of a vienna lager.

BJCP-03 Vienna Lager



You can start by looking at My vienna lager recipe in my pulldown, and read the articles and listen to the podcast I cited.
Thanks again, this is where I got the Munchen Dunkel:

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/75/667

And from the Modelo web page :



Guess I mixed up Vienna and Austrian.

The Negra comes out much darker than yours looks in BeerSmith. Guess I have to add some darker malts for color.

The only Caramunich I can get here in the islands is Belgian. OK to use it or should I buy online?

Most reviews mention corn?

Also I can't lager, and will be doing an ale version, yes I know it won't be the same but one has to do what one can. What dry yeast would you suggest?

Thanks again.
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Old 03-09-2012, 01:22 PM   #9
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This recipe is dead on.

8 lbs. Pilsner
1-1/2 lbs. Vienna
2 oz. chocolate
3/4 oz. Hallertau @90
3/4 oz. Tettnanger @90
1/2 oz. Tettnanger @10
(adjust bittering hops for 27 IBU)
Bavarian lager yeast
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This recipe is dead on.

8 lbs. Pilsner
1-1/2 lbs. Vienna
2 oz. chocolate
3/4 oz. Hallertau @90
3/4 oz. Tettnanger @90
1/2 oz. Tettnanger @10
(adjust bittering hops for 27 IBU)
Bavarian lager yeast
Tks, Love your Disclaimer. LOL


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