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Old 03-08-2012, 02:46 AM   #21
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The only problem with the farm brewing thing is that NY need more maltsters if this is to go anywhere. I think there is a very small malt operation somewhere near hudson, since some guy sells his beer at farmers markets. The NY Times did an article on him a while back.
Interestingly, if you look at the way the press release was worded, the ingredients need to either be "grown or produced" in NY. Which really, when you think about it means that you could use barley grown in NY but malted elsewhere, or conversely use barely grown elsewhere but malted in NY.

Again, if the point is to encourage agriculture and/or industry to move or be created in NY, it kind of does both.



 
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Old 03-08-2012, 04:06 PM   #22
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When I said lousy with apples I meant it in the "we have more apples than we know what to do with" sense.
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Considering NYS produces the most apples after Washington state, I'd say we are pretty good with apples. We also produce a lot of heirloom varieties, many of which we should be using for hard cider. Talk about an untapped buisness opportunity.

The only problem with the farm brewing thing is that NY need more maltsters if this is to go anywhere. I think there is a very small malt operation somewhere near hudson, since some guy sells his beer at farmers markets. The NY Times did an article on him a while back.


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Old 03-14-2012, 02:54 AM   #23
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My question about the whole thing is this... "Can I gat a tax break to build a malting house to malt the barley we have to grow in NYS?"

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Old 03-28-2012, 06:05 PM   #24
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+1 on the malting tax break.

The issue is also infrastructure. Valley Malt in MA is running a reasonably successful operation. But they are constantly running out of stock and can't keep a steady flow of product... At least to brew stores here in NYC.

Plus, they have also had to work out the land as they went. There are few barley fields in NY as they have all moved to the Midwest. There are some wheat fields, but malting barley is in short supply.

I think adopting the whole chain is too risky as a new, organic operation (anyone follow NY weather this year?). But, if there are farms willing to grow the malt, I know how to malt! If anyone gets that far, I'll be your maltster! Then, it's about delivering a consistent product with the regularity and growth to work with fledgling, expanding, and high volume breweries in the state.

The demand is there, but there are quite a few steps to get there before you start competing with the big boys.

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Old 03-31-2012, 02:01 AM   #25
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It's been out of business for a while, but the building is still there.

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Old 04-08-2012, 01:04 PM   #26
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Anyone else think of futurama when they saw this thread title because it says New New York?

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Old 04-14-2012, 05:08 PM   #27
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I live in a really rural part of the state. I can assure you there is a lot of farmland no longer being used. It is mostly dairy farms and it is hard to turn a profit unless they are a huge operation. Maybe something like this would help utilize some of that abandoned farm land.

 
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Old 04-15-2012, 02:33 PM   #28
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Upping barley production is not a problem in my view... the "infrastucture" is already here in NY for growing any grain. Hops is another matter, but close behind the barley. My question is who wants to go in with me on a malting facility?

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Old 04-19-2012, 08:35 PM   #29
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Now HERE's a dumb question. Just how hard is it to grow hops in Orange County's famously rocky soil?
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Old 04-19-2012, 09:19 PM   #30
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I believe a lot of the land in OC was sprayed with a chemical to fight the blight which makes hop growin impossible forever. Beer Sessions Radio had a guy on recently who mentioned something about that.


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