Need advice about efficiency numbers - Home Brew Forums
Register Now For Free!

Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > All Grain & Partial Mash Brewing > Need advice about efficiency numbers

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 03-06-2012, 02:20 AM   #1
bayoujeeper
Recipes 
 
Jan 2012
Prairieville, Louisiana
Posts: 110
Liked 5 Times on 5 Posts



Hello all,
I just finished my fourth AG batch, BIAB style. When I enter my recipes in beersmith, I set my efficiency to 60%. On my last two batches I hit my all my numbers (actually had a little higher OG, which gave me a bit better than 60% eff.) I read and hear everyone say 75%, etc.
I know by calculating my recipes at 60% it takes more grain, etc. My question is should I worry about my efficiency at 60% if I am constantly getting that? I buy my grains already crushed from an online vendor since I do not have a LHBS or a mill.
Thanks in advanced!

 
Reply With Quote
Old 03-06-2012, 03:02 AM   #2
MalFet
/bɪər nɜrd/
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
 
MalFet's Avatar
Recipes 
 
May 2010
NYC / Kathmandu
Posts: 8,632
Liked 1474 Times on 975 Posts


60% is respectable enough, especially for BIAB. If you're happy with your results, no need to change anything. If you're curious and want to run some tests, you can always check out Kaiser's troubleshooting guide here.The spreadsheet is a good way to figure out where you're losing sugars.
__________________
"Be excellent to each other." -Benjamin Franklin

 
Reply With Quote
Old 03-06-2012, 03:47 AM   #3
kcpup
Recipes 
 
Aug 2009
Missouri
Posts: 267
Liked 5 Times on 4 Posts


I BIAB and at first my efficiency was at around 60%.for a few months.

When I dug into my water profile and began to build my water (I elected to use RO water and build up), my efficiency soared. I now am consistently at 75%. I get my grain precrushed as well.

Spend time researching. Use the link the prior poster referred you to. It's a valuable reference.

Don't be discouraged about 60% efficiency. It's just fine. However, if you wish to improve it, you can!

 
Reply With Quote
Old 03-06-2012, 01:11 PM   #4
gunner65
 
gunner65's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Feb 2010
Lexington, KY
Posts: 843
Liked 17 Times on 14 Posts


I am just curious but how did you come up with 60% ? Did you actually calculate 60 % after a couple of brewdays? or is that just a number you selected to formulate your recipes? 60 % is low for BIAB 5g batches (unless they are real high gravity). I have never been below 72% even on an 18 lb grain bill 1.080 beer. Sunday night I hit 78 % on a 14 lb.
__________________
Single Vessel BIAB is all I need....Until we figure out the no vessel technique.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 03-06-2012, 01:37 PM   #5
bayoujeeper
Recipes 
 
Jan 2012
Prairieville, Louisiana
Posts: 110
Liked 5 Times on 5 Posts


Quote:
Originally Posted by gunner65 View Post
I am just curious but how did you come up with 60% ? Did you actually calculate 60 % after a couple of brewdays? or is that just a number you selected to formulate your recipes? 60 % is low for BIAB 5g batches (unless they are real high gravity). I have never been below 72% even on an 18 lb grain bill 1.080 beer. Sunday night I hit 78 % on a 14 lb.
Gunner, my first batch came out about 59%, so I started entering my recipes in based on 60% efficiency. All the beers I have done so far have been in the 1.048-1.053 range.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 03-06-2012, 01:38 PM   #6
bayoujeeper
Recipes 
 
Jan 2012
Prairieville, Louisiana
Posts: 110
Liked 5 Times on 5 Posts


Quote:
Originally Posted by kcpup View Post
I BIAB and at first my efficiency was at around 60%.for a few months.

When I dug into my water profile and began to build my water (I elected to use RO water and build up), my efficiency soared. I now am consistently at 75%. I get my grain precrushed as well.

Spend time researching. Use the link the prior poster referred you to. It's a valuable reference.

Don't be discouraged about 60% efficiency. It's just fine. However, if you wish to improve it, you can!
Thanks kcpup! I will look into my water as well.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 03-06-2012, 03:05 PM   #7
gunner65
 
gunner65's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Feb 2010
Lexington, KY
Posts: 843
Liked 17 Times on 14 Posts


Quote:
Originally Posted by bayoujeeper

Thanks kcpup! I will look into my water as well.
I would also look into milling your own grain. When I finish milling its almost powder.
__________________
Single Vessel BIAB is all I need....Until we figure out the no vessel technique.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 03-06-2012, 04:51 PM   #8
gunner65
 
gunner65's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Feb 2010
Lexington, KY
Posts: 843
Liked 17 Times on 14 Posts


Another question I have for you is how much water are you starting with? Just as reference with a 12 lb grain bill on my system I start with 8.5 gallons end with about 6 gallons.
__________________
Single Vessel BIAB is all I need....Until we figure out the no vessel technique.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 03-06-2012, 07:11 PM   #9
bayoujeeper
Recipes 
 
Jan 2012
Prairieville, Louisiana
Posts: 110
Liked 5 Times on 5 Posts


I use beersmith, and an online calculator, not that I don't trust beersmith (I am in the business, sometimes software can have glitches).
Anyway for example my last batch, a Pale Ale, my grain bill was 7.25lbs and my starting water volume was 4.93 gallons. That's for a three gallon batch, as all my batches are 3g.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 03-06-2012, 08:06 PM   #10
gunner65
 
gunner65's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Feb 2010
Lexington, KY
Posts: 843
Liked 17 Times on 14 Posts


Quote:
Originally Posted by bayoujeeper
I use beersmith, and an online calculator, not that I don't trust beersmith (I am in the business, sometimes software can have glitches).
Anyway for example my last batch, a Pale Ale, my grain bill was 7.25lbs and my starting water volume was 4.93 gallons. That's for a three gallon batch, as all my batches are 3g.
So what is you pre boil amount and do you squeeze the bag?
__________________
Single Vessel BIAB is all I need....Until we figure out the no vessel technique.

 
Reply With Quote
Reply
Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Efficiency numbers, I'm confused Barnstormer All Grain & Partial Mash Brewing 33 11-16-2011 04:42 PM
What are your efficiency numbers? shanecb All Grain & Partial Mash Brewing 29 08-16-2010 01:47 AM
my efficiency numbers are wack! SenorWanderer All Grain & Partial Mash Brewing 15 04-03-2008 03:17 PM
Numbers numbers everywhere! My efficiency is??? Zymurgrafi All Grain & Partial Mash Brewing 40 12-14-2007 01:22 AM
Promash Efficiency Numbers. jdoiv All Grain & Partial Mash Brewing 6 05-12-2007 01:26 PM


Forum Jump