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Old 06-03-2007, 01:02 AM   #1
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My LHBS just got some whole leaf Cascade hops in (I assume fairly fresh). So I wanted to make an American Pale Ale using only Casade. I have decided to do this to get a good feel for what this specific hop tastes/smells like. I would like to do this with other hop varieties but we will see.

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1. How does the recipe look?
2. What would be a good mash temp for this?


Grain:
8lb US 2-row
2lb. Munich 10L
.5lb US Crystal 10L
.5lb Carapils

Single infusion mash for 60 min.

Batch sparge at 170. Collect ~6.5 gallons.

Hops:
All additions: whole Casacade leaf hops 7.5% alpha acids
60 min: .75 oz
30 min: .5 oz
15 min: .25 oz
5 min: .25 oz
Dry hop: .25 oz

Yeast: Nottingham
Ferment 5.5 gallons.

With 65% efficiency (not sure about this, will adjust if needed):
Expected OG: 1.057
Expected FG: 1.014
Expected Color: 6.0 SRM
Expected IBU: 35IBU

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Old 06-03-2007, 01:07 AM   #2
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I'd bump up the late additions, myself; you could easily do at least a half ounce at 15, 5, and dry-hopping. Cascade's a nice, citrusy hop, can't really go wrong if you like domestic-flavored pale ales. I like the use of a good amount of Munich, too.


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Old 06-03-2007, 01:14 AM   #3
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Thanks.

Part of this is to keep up the malt flavor (with the Munich) and not go overboard with the hops. SWMBO doesn't like overly hopped beers, well kind of, she likes IPAs (even ordered a DFH 90min the other day).

She has never had a pale ale that she liked, I was hoping this would be the first. These Cascade have fairly high AA content, hard to increase the flavor additions with out upping the IBUs a lot.

 
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Old 06-03-2007, 01:27 AM   #4
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Just bump the 5 minute addition, then; you'll get flavor, but very little bitterness.
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So what if I were to kill the dry hop and throw that in at 5 min. giving a total of .5 there. I bought 2oz. of hops don't want to have to buy more.

Also, 153 for the mash temp?

 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Beerrific
Thanks.

Part of this is to keep up the malt flavor (with the Munich) and not go overboard with the hops. SWMBO doesn't like overly hopped beers, well kind of, she likes IPAs (even ordered a DFH 90min the other day).

She has never had a pale ale that she liked, I was hoping this would be the first. These Cascade have fairly high AA content, hard to increase the flavor additions with out upping the IBUs a lot.
If she likes IPAs and not pale ales, seems to me you should be shooting form more hoppiness, not less?

But in any case, the late hop increases suggested by bird won't add that many IBUs (3-4, maybe)...if you're worried about too much bitterness but still want the hop flavor, you could cut the 60 min addition back, and/or move it to 45 minutes, or 30.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bike N Brew
If she likes IPAs and not pale ales, seems to me you should be shooting form more hoppiness, not less?
I know it is weird. She likes malty beers. No question. She hate Pilsners and pale ales. I think she like the maltiness of the IPAs

So, with that being said, what is a good IBU to shoot for? BJCP Guidelines call for 30-45+. I am looking for something in the 30s I guess. I will move some stuff around and get more of the IBUs from the flavor additions.

 
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So what if I were to kill the dry hop and throw that in at 5 min. giving a total of .5 there. I bought 2oz. of hops don't want to have to buy more.

Also, 153 for the mash temp?
You could sub something else for some or all of the bittering; something clean.
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You could sub something else for some or all of the bittering; something clean.
I have some leftover Spalt, Saaz and Tettnanger. Or I could look into the future and see what I will have left over in a few weeks.

 
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Old 06-03-2007, 02:48 AM   #10
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I use the same recipe minus the carapils and the dryhop,single inf.mash at 154deg.every time,batch sparge at 165,170 and the stuff turns out real good to my liking....
I had a real low efficiency the last time but after kegging,some patience and carbonation the latest batch is great.
HEY-do what makes you feel good-after all I did this one as my 1st A.G. and I'm hooked. Shane



 
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