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Old 02-29-2012, 06:57 PM   #11
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I know some people keep their thief aside in a wallpaper tray full of starsan. Maybe I could try that.
If you know where to get a wallpaper tray, let me know. None of the stores around here stock them anymore.


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Old 02-29-2012, 07:18 PM   #12
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I think there are metal "mud" trays at HD by the sheet rock tools. Might work if they don't rust.


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Old 03-01-2012, 07:43 PM   #13
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Thanks for all the input.

I'm sure that different people expend different amounts of energy fussing over their fermenting beer. I tend to be on the low-fuss end myself, but I'm making an effort to sample just a bit more to address a specific issue (tracking attenuation). Sooo...the "don't sample" advice is...of limited utility.

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I bought a bunch of disposable pipettes. I just take a small sample and check it on a refractometer. I just use the refractometer tool in BeerSmith to give me an approximation of the gravity. I can also tell from day to day if fermentation is still going on by whether the reading changes.
Now see, there's something I hadn't thought of before. Thanks.
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Old 03-02-2012, 05:19 AM   #14
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I think there are metal "mud" trays at HD by the sheet rock tools. Might work if they don't rust.
The only metal trays I found at the HD store were formed on a brake so they wont hold liquid. Also they were a little short to get a racking cane in (my objective).

I was able to find a wallpaper tray at a Jerry's home improvement store. I'm sure Home Depot or Lowes would have them.

As far as sampling is concerned, I just use a turkey baster sprayed down with star san. (inside and out) It only takes three pulls in about thirty seconds.
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Old 03-02-2012, 04:26 PM   #15
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Does StarSan really sanitize instantly on contact? Currently, I fill a hydrometer jar with an Iodophor solution and sit my wine thief in there for 10 minutes before sampling. It's a pretty good system, but if I could eliminate that 10 minute wait I 'd be happy.

Slightly OT question: does anybody besides me stress out about letting air into the carboy when taking the airlock off to draw a sample? I try to do anything I can to minimize oxidation, so that bugs me. I also stress out about the big pocket of air that floats over my beer while I'm filling the bottling bucket. I've thought about floating a sanitized piece of foam over the surface of the beer--whaddaya think?

Probably I should just RDWHAHB.
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CO2 is heavier than air, so it doesn't all rush out when you pop the top on your fermenter. It's likely that there is less of a CO2 cushion by the time you go to the bottling bucket---some people spray their buckets with CO2 before filling (using CO2 from a kegging setup, or one of those small CO2 chargers).

I like the idea of sanitizing in the hydrometer cylinder. I'm thinking I might try to find a glass thief and a cylinder that are of compatible sizes, and just keep the thief floating in StarSan for the duration of the fermentation.
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I was able to find a wallpaper tray at a Jerry's home improvement store. I'm sure Home Depot or Lowes would have them.
But, they don't. At least not around here. They simply do not carry wallpaper or wallpaper supplies at all.
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Old 03-02-2012, 04:53 PM   #17
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Bummer. People don't do wall paper in LA I guess.
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RE: the OT question
CO2 is heavier than air, so it doesn't all rush out when you pop the top on your fermenter. It's likely that there is less of a CO2 cushion by the time you go to the bottling bucket---some people spray their buckets with CO2 before filling (using CO2 from a kegging setup, or one of those small CO2 chargers).

I like the idea of sanitizing in the hydrometer cylinder. I'm thinking I might try to find a glass thief and a cylinder that are of compatible sizes, and just keep the thief floating in StarSan for the duration of the fermentation.
Thanks, RB. I don't keg, but if I wanted to use one of those CO2 chargers, I guess I'd pour the priming sugar solution in the bucket, drop my auto-siphon hose in there, put the lid on the bucket part way and spray the CO2 through the opening until I thought the air had been displaced? And then I'd start siphoning under the CO2, and close the lid completely when I'm done? I might try that.
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What's with all this sampling and fussing over the FG ? I don't open my fermenter until three weeks when I'm ready to Keg/Bottle; no need to. Can't change anything anyway; Pitch enough Yeast and Keep your Fermentation Temps in your Range..you will always make beer. Give your Carboy/Bucket a swirl for a couple days after the Fermentation really begins to slow to finish it out and it will all be good

Why risk the contaimanation; 3/3 Rule.. three weeks in Fermenter/ Three Weeks in bottle/Kettle

Oh, and I take my tasting sample/FG sample with a Sanitizes Pyrex Measuring cup; just dip it into the bucket and pull out a cup. I check the FG; then keg/bottle... then drink the sample
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What's with all this sampling and fussing over the FG ? I don't open my fermenter until three weeks when I'm ready to Keg/Bottle; no need to. Can't change anything anyway; Pitch enough Yeast and Keep your Fermentation Temps in your Range..you will always make beer. Give your Carboy/Bucket a swirl for a couple days after the Fermentation really begins to slow to finish it out and it will all be good

Why risk the contaimanation; 3/3 Rule.. three weeks in Fermenter/ Three Weeks in bottle/Kettle

Oh, and I take my tasting sample/FG sample with a Sanitizes Pyrex Measuring cup; just dip it into the bucket and pull out a cup. I check the FG; then keg/bottle... then drink the sample
If you are pitching enough yeast and maintaining proper temps, there is no reason to bother with the 3 week in the fermenter rule. But that is a discussion for another time, and to each their own...


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