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Old 02-28-2012, 04:44 PM   #21
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Hmm.. I have heard good things about Amarillo.. not sure if my LHBS has them though. Maybe I'll go with Amarillo with the Hop Schedule you suggested before.


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Old 02-28-2012, 04:50 PM   #22
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GL getting Amarillo, my lhbs said the breweries are buying them up by the Lb's.


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Old 02-28-2012, 04:50 PM   #23
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The others have been helpful, but I thought I would just add a couple of thoughts. First, one of the best ways to gauge how much is "too much" is to look at the SG/IBU ratio. You have Beersmith so that's easy to do- it's right there for you. For most pale ales, a ratio of .600-.800 or so would be great. What that ratio does is compare your OG to your IBUs. A cream ale might be .260, for example, while an IPA might be 1.000. That's the key to a properly balanced beer.

Second, while I don't like citra much, especially by itself, others do. So if you like citra I think you'll get a good idea of the flavor by using it. However, any hops added before 20 minutes from the end of the boil will be bittering hops and not give you flavor or aroma of the noted tropical fruit flavor of citra. I'd keep that in mind for next time, and hop differently. You've basically got three ounces of bittering hops, which may distort the flavor and aroma.

For most APAs, I'd hop like this:
Bittering hops- 1oz Citra - 60 min (whole) (or to get around 25-30 IBUs from this addition)
Flavor hops- 1 oz hops 15 minutes
Aroma hops- 1 oz hops 5 minutes or flame out
Dryhop- 1 oz hops

I'd shoot for about a total of 45 IBUs in a 1.050-1.060 beer. For a higher OG, I'd go a tad higher on the bittering hops.

Edit- after I finished this, I saw the thread title and it's supposed to be an IPA! Sorry about the misundertanding.

For an IPA, I'd hop very similar, but get more IBUs at the 60 minute addition (45-50) and increase the flavor and aroma hops, and increase the dryhopping. I'd probably go this route for most IPAs:


1 oz bittering hops or 1.5 oz, to get to 45 IBUs from this addition
1 oz hops 15 minutes
1 oz hops 10 minutes
1 oz hops 5 minutes
1 oz hops 0 minutes
2 oz dryhops
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In my opinion hop additions between 20-59 minutes are a waste. You're boiling away all the flavor and aroma and you're under utilizing the hops if you're going for bitterness.
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Old 02-28-2012, 04:56 PM   #24
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Ok, so the consensus would be to do bittering hops for the full boil.. then save the rest for flavor (15,10), aroma (10-0) and dry hopping... Amarillo is probably not available to me
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Old 02-28-2012, 05:26 PM   #25
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Can i add one more thing? I tend to have better hop "fullness" when i first wort hop and then do 15-0 min additions.
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Old 02-28-2012, 05:30 PM   #26
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I actually wanted to do FWH in this SMaSH but forgot - so I added it to the boil for 60 minutes. I'm assuming FWH is a replacement for 60 minute addition?

I read these forums every day and try and learn as much as I can, but sometimes it doesn't matter how much you read, you still forget some. I learn more by actually going through the process.. but this forum is invaluable.
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Old 02-28-2012, 05:36 PM   #27
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Yea i always sub my 60 for fwh.
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Old 02-28-2012, 06:04 PM   #28
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Get Some!


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Old 02-28-2012, 06:34 PM   #29
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Old 02-28-2012, 07:02 PM   #30
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Haha, damn.. I'm going to have to get some.. great prices - at least compared to my LHBS. They charge $4.99 for 2oz of most hops.


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