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Old 03-12-2012, 04:45 PM   #21
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I have the HD 5500W ULWD Foldback element still scorched my wort. Twice in fact on back to back lagers with 90 minute boils. The wort scorched only near the base of the element where the four legs all come together in a knot. I "modified" mine last night after scorching a dunkel by gently bending mine to create more space between adjacent element runs. I'm also going to use a hop bag next time to keep the green stuff from sticking during the boil. I didn't have any issues during the first two times that I used it, but the last two have scorched. I clean the element after each use, but I'm not sure how thoroughly since I just use a toilet brush and PBW solution after the boil.

Are you sure that's a 5500W ULWD element? Looks like a regular LWD element to me.

The 'standard' Camco model 0963 5500W ULDW elements that many brewers use are longer still since they have a zig-zag pattern which makes it longer:



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Just tell people it's a smoked style
Wort that's been scorched doesn't taste smokey, it tastes like ashes.

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Old 03-12-2012, 05:27 PM   #22
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Yup, the package lists it as an ULWD element. I know that there's a bunch of us using them on the forum but I don't know how many have had troubles with them. I didn't have a problem until I did a 90 minute boil at ~20% boil off rate. I've backed it down to 15% for my next batch later this week and I opened it up some with gentle bending. We'll see if that helps at all.



They are both listed at ~50W/sq-in but are also both about the same length. I'll be getting the ripple element since Amazon has them on sale right now if my spare scorches this week though.


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Old 03-12-2012, 05:36 PM   #23
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How long is the element? The ULWD on the packaging may be a typo. If you took the Camco one and got rid of the bends it appears like it would be a lot longer than the one you posted a picture of. I've heard of others here mentioning that they had mis-labelled elements.

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Old 03-12-2012, 06:38 PM   #24
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I am switching back to my spare element which is a Camco 02399, it is not the HD one, but one that I had thought was bad which ended up being a bad SSR. Of course I can't get any links to work, but it is available on the Camco.net website. I didn't see the HD one on their website though.

You'll note that they are both sold as 50W/sq-in elements even though the ripple one would be a bunch longer than the standard fold back if it was stretched out.
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I ended up ordering the Camco 02963 last night off of Amazon since they had it on sale and I get free shipping with my Prime membership. I'll keep the 02399 laying around as a spare or to use for a small volume BK for those 3 gallon test batches that I can't do with the ekeggle.
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I ended up ordering the Camco 02963 last night off of Amazon since they had it on sale and I get free shipping with my Prime membership. I'll keep the 02399 laying around as a spare or to use for a small volume BK for those 3 gallon test batches that I can't do with the ekeggle.
pvtschultz.......looks like we've both have had the some problems. I have brewed a couple light batches with 60 minute boils with no problems, but I tried a heavier german weizzen type with a longer boil and I could faintly start to smell a scorch come on so I shut it off at about 75-80 minutes. Saved it and the brew appears to be fine but the element was all caked up and starting to burn.
This element was not a camco but the 'dude' at the supply house assured me that it was the same.

anyways, I did order the 02963 element from Amazon BUT!!! when I went to put it in I noticed 02962 printed on the element

does anyone know if there is a difference??

went to camco.net and could find the 02963 but no info on the 02962 that I have. even done the search on their site

Help....I'm

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I found references to the 02962 here on HBT. You should be fine as long as it is a 5500W ULWD lime-life ripple element.
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OK...Thanks
I'll go ahead and install it and give er a go.

Were the ones you got from Amazon marked correctly?

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My element from Amazon is marked 02963.

I made my first batch using the 02963 ripple over the weekend with a 90 minute boil and the thing looked cleaner than it was when I installed it. I will say that my weather resistant enclosure was not designed to accommodate the ripple element though, that was a huge PITA to work out. Anyways, I'm going to do another ale to keep the supply lines full and then a lager or two with 90 minute boils and we'll see how it works out. I'm sure it will all be fine, everyone else uses this element...
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I use the ULWD 5500 watt element from HD and haven't had a problem after about 15-20 batches, some 10 gal some 5 gal. A few of the batches were light lagers or blonde ales too. I run the boil at about 55-60%, and boil off about .8 to 1 gal per hour. One of the early batches I did was a Helles lager and it just got honorable mention in a competition last week, so I'm not sure how you are scorching anything.


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