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Old 02-16-2012, 08:23 AM   #1
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Hello all. This is my first post here on HBT. Hopefully it will be of interest to you all.

I am working on developing a product and would like to see if it would be of any interest to you. I am targeting small batch (~50 bottles) systems but future versions of the product could be targeted for larger batches.

PROBLEM:
With current solutions the user must fill each bottle 1 by 1, while holding each bottle manually, and monitoring the amount of liquid that enters each bottle.

SOLUTION:
An auto-stop faucet attachment.
-Hands-free system.
-Auto-stop based upon fill height.
-Option to expand # of auto-stop attachments.
-All mechanical.
-Easy to clean.

MY QUESTIONS TO YOU?
-Would this product interest you?
-What would you consider paying for this product?
-Are there any needs that this product does not solve? (In regards to the filling process)

Please respond with any feedback or questions! Thanks everyone!
(Sorry in advance. I will not be able to show any product prototypes.)

 
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Old 02-16-2012, 09:32 AM   #2
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Like most home brewers I reuse bottles from beer that has come from the store and even though they all are 12oz or what ever some are diffrent shape and size. For instance my Sam Adams bottles are taller than my Abita. So, the device would have to be able to adjust to diffrent bottles on the fly.

Also,(IMO) If the cost is more than a keg set up It would not be worth it.

To make it hands free you would have to load bottles in to a magazine and make them move to the spout(s).. or move the spout to the bottles, either way they have to line up just right in a just right pattern. The initial set up would seem to be a pain, and if you use diffrent size bottles you would have to put them in the same spot the pattern was set for.
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Old 02-16-2012, 09:40 AM   #3
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I forgot to add like most people I am limited to space and wife approval, so it cant take up much room.
I noticed at McDonalds the drink fill systems they have with the small convayor (that always over fills and makes a mess) and think how would I convert that into a way to bottle but to get it to insert a tube to the bottom of the bottle everytime with out making a mess would be difficult.
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Old 02-16-2012, 01:46 PM   #4
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I can't see the value to me. For the reasons stated above and because once I have all of my stuff set up and sanitized, etc. the actual bottle filling is the easy part.

This sounds like one more thing that needs to be cleaned and sanitized very carefully...

 
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Old 02-17-2012, 12:14 AM   #5
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Thanks for your feedback Latamir and Homercidal!

Would a more simple replacement for the faucet be of any interest?

The user would simply insert the fill tube into the bottle in the same manner as the current solution. However, liquid flow would begin by sensing the upward force of the top of the bottle. And stop by either (1) the user moving the bottle down or (2) using a set-able fill height sensor (detecting the distance of liquid compared to the top of the bottle).

Any thoughts? Potential price could be around the $20 range.

 
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Old 02-17-2012, 02:27 AM   #6
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Thanks for your feedback Latamir and Homercidal!

Would a more simple replacement for the faucet be of any interest?

The user would simply insert the fill tube into the bottle in the same manner as the current solution. However, liquid flow would begin by sensing the upward force of the top of the bottle. And stop by either (1) the user moving the bottle down or (2) using a set-able fill height sensor (detecting the distance of liquid compared to the top of the bottle).

Any thoughts? Potential price could be around the $20 range.
Option #1 is essentially how a basic spring tip bottle filler works currently. The bottle lifts the plunger against the bottom of the bottle, and closes when the bottle is lowered. A basic bottle filler is about $3. A $20 version would have to do something very special to justify the 7x increase in price.
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Old 02-17-2012, 02:38 AM   #7
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No offense, but it sounds like you are describing what we already use with jazzier terms and adding electronics that are unnecessary.
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Old 02-17-2012, 02:55 AM   #8
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What about the ferrari auto bottle filler. It fills and auto stops ams I think out is about twenty bucks. Mostly sold to wine folks I think.

I'm curious to see where this goes

 
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Old 02-17-2012, 02:56 AM   #9
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Agree. The existing system is cheap, effective, easy and quick. There isn't a market need to improve upon this, at least in the way your describing.

But whatever you do, it has to improve upon the current design, be very cost competitive, be light and mobile, have a strong warranty, easily cleaned. I think the production cost would far exceed the actual cost per unit for your target market.

 
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Old 02-17-2012, 08:33 AM   #10
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Thank you all for you input. I am new to home brewing and this is somethingbeing designed as part of a mechanical design class. Wanted to look into its viability as a potential retail product.

edecambra: That is a cool product. Our vision is something along those lines. Here is a video if you havent seen it.

 
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