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Old 09-27-2012, 12:17 AM   #271
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I am also confused by the "first wort hop" in the recipe. On the all grain recipe the first addition of hops is with 15 minutes remaining correct? Then what does"0.75 oz Citra [12.40%] (First Wort Hop) Hops 17.0 IBU" mean? Thank you for clarification, I read through the thread but could not find an answer.

 
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Old 09-27-2012, 12:24 AM   #272
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Fwh means throw them in the kettle while you collect wort from mlt

 
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Old 09-30-2012, 10:32 PM   #273
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Thanks for the recipe Skeezer!

The results:

 
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Old 09-30-2012, 11:03 PM   #274
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This is a fantastic recipe. Gets even better with a little age. Have never had the original but can't imagine it being any better than this. Such a unique taste. Thanks so much for the recipe.

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Old 10-05-2012, 01:26 AM   #275
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Fwh means throw them in the kettle while you collect wort from mlt
Thank you. I did some research on FWH after reading this and decided to use it in my brew. Got a batch in the primary right now!

 
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Old 10-08-2012, 03:30 PM   #276
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Finally got around to brewing this up yesterday. I added the DME with the 10 and 5 minute hop additions. It smelled fantastic as I put it in the fermenter. I got an OG reading of 0.070 (That could be wildly inaccurate as I was in a hurry at that point. SWMBO called on her way home from work and her car had overheated so I was rushing to get this finished up so I could go deal with that). Other than that the brew went smoothly. Those citra hops smell fantastic. I picked up a sixer of Sierra Nevada Torpedo just to kind of get an idea of what this hop tastes like. It's damn tast can't wait for this to be done.
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Old 10-09-2012, 03:58 AM   #277
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Ok, so 24 hours in and we have airlock activity. Took a big ol' whiff of the airlock and holy grapefruits batman! I'm hoping for some mango flavor or maybe something else tropical, I don't know but if the taste follows the nose then this is going to be one hell of a beer.
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Old 10-11-2012, 05:07 PM   #278
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Hey Guys!

I'm so exited to get started on this one! This is my first post as well and my first home-brew and will be doing this wonderful beer with my Dad. I was quite fortunate to score a six-pack of ZD on eBay and the Beer is AWESOME!. I have a few left in the fridge to compare with our final results. So i was hoping you guys can give me some pointers.

I will doing the extract version batch as my first brew. Here is my concern.

I have a 10 gallon kettle so i can do a full 5gallon boil.

Beersmith tells me the following based on the formula:

Batch: 5 gal
Boil Volume: 5.70 gal

1.00 lb Munich Malt - 10L (10.0 SRM) Grain 11.8 %
0.50 lb Carafoam (2.0 SRM) Grain 5.9 %
0.50 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (60.0 SRM) Grain 5.9 %
0.50 lb Melanoiden Malt (20.0 SRM) Grain 5.9 %
0.75 oz Citra [12.40%] (First Wort Hop) Hops 12.5 IBU
6.00 lb Extra Light Dry Extract (3.0 SRM) Dry Extract 70.6 %
1.00 oz Citra [12.40%] (15 min) Hops 12.4 IBU
1.00 oz Citra [12.40%] (10 min) Hops 9.1 IBU
1.00 oz Citra [12.40%] (5 min) Hops 5.0 IBU
1.00 oz Citra [12.40%] (1 min) Hops 1.1 IBU
3.00 oz Citra [12.40%] (Dry Hop 7 days) Hops -
1 packet SafAle English Ale (S-04)

And will use a full 1 ounce of citra on the FWH instead of (0.75).

I removed the Extra Oz of Citra @ 60min since I'm doing a full 5g boil as stated on the recipe but wont that eliminate my bittering hop stage?.
Now I'm not sure why Beersmith says i will need 7.76 gallons of water for this recipe. What?? I'm assuming i should put 5.70 gallons on my kettle to begin grain steeping right?
And do i really need to dry hop for 10 days. Should it be 7 days be max?

Thanks Guys!

Every pointer can help us out a ton...

 
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Old 10-11-2012, 06:01 PM   #279
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I don't use BeerSmith, so I can't say with certainty, but I'd guess it's adding additional water to account for hop loss/trub loss. With a hop bill this big, you're gonna leave a crap-ton of liquid behind going into the fermenter, and again going from the fermenter to your keg/bottling bucket.

 
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Old 10-11-2012, 08:29 PM   #280
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I usually do a 6 gallon post boil on this to account for trub loss and the loss to the dry hop and end with about 5g into the keg. The 1oz FWH will be fine, it will be your bittering. If doing a full boil, you dont need the 60min addition (you leave the FWH in for the whole boil). 7 days is fine for dryhop. I have actually been doing 2 dryhop additions lately in IPAs, splitting them in half, then going about 3-5 days per addition.

For your boil volume, there is a settingin beersmith for boil off rate. If this is your first brew, you probably don't know it. Make sure you keep record of your pre-boil and post boil so you can add this for future reference. My boil off rate is around 1.5g/hr, so if I am shooting for 5.5g, I usually start with 7g or so. That is outdoors on a turkey fryer. If you are on the stove, it will be lower.

 
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