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Old 02-09-2012, 07:27 PM   #21
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do the same rules apply for competition? would you ever submit a "clone"?



 
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Old 02-09-2012, 07:56 PM   #22
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Pretty sure most competitions don't care what you call it or where you got the recipe from. The judges for most comps never see the recipe, and sometimes the bottles are de-labeled anyways. Just an entry number and the product itself.


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Old 02-09-2012, 08:11 PM   #23
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do the same rules apply for competition? would you ever submit a "clone"?
Since process has such a big effect on the taste of the beer, I'd say anything you brew is yours regardless of where you got the recipe. There's no ethical issue with this IMO.
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Old 02-10-2012, 12:05 AM   #24
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Since process has such a big effect on the taste of the beer, I'd say anything you brew is yours regardless of where you got the recipe. There's no ethical issue with this IMO.
I agree, but it is kind of lame to swing a recipe around online that you know you got from someone else. I think the beer you make is individual, but the recipe should give props.
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Old 02-10-2012, 12:16 AM   #25
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I agree, but it is kind of lame to swing a recipe around online that you know you got from someone else. I think the beer you make is individual, but the recipe should give props.
Well yea, I agree, I was referring to submitting it to comps; see my previous post in this thread. In fact, I have a recipe for a smoke beer that was a spinoff of Jamil Zainascheff's smoke beer, and I give him props. A member here, DubbelDach, used that recipe and won a gold medal with it, and he mentioned the recipe I posted as the source, both in that thread and in his own blog. That is being a dude.
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Old 02-10-2012, 12:53 AM   #26
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Personally, if I'm making someone else's recipe, I use their name. Even if I make hop/yeast substitutions. Once the grain build changes, it's mine. People on the board win prizes brewing other people's recipes, but as pointed out, you made it, it's your beer.

I don't do competitions, but if I did use another person's recipe, I would say so. It's still my beer and my craft.
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Old 04-22-2012, 03:57 AM   #27
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Recipes have copyrights, beers do not. I think you're fine naming the beer you brewed. It's your beer. When it comes to claiming ownership of someone else's recipe, it's not cool to plagiarize. If you made changes to an existing recipe to end up with something novel, cite the recipe you started with.

 
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Old 04-22-2012, 05:19 AM   #28
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You can make someone else's recipe and give it your own name. It's called re-branding.
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Old 04-22-2012, 05:44 AM   #29
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If Gordon Ramsay cooks salmon using a recipe he learned in his travels to Italy, is it not his "salmon"? Chefs do this all the time. Take a recipe they think sounds good and add, subtract or substitute various ingredients and cooking techniques to get the dish they imagine. I think if you've sat down and really thought about how you want this beer to taste and which ingredients and techniques you will use to get that flavor, then the beer is your creation. You can always give credit to the recipe or beer that inspired it. But it is yours. And if you want to name it, name it.
Not to mention that musicians do it constantly as well.... you can play a crap ton of well known rock songs if you know the main guitar riff to smoke on the water...

 
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Old 04-22-2012, 10:02 AM   #30
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Let's say you came across the recipe of Budweiser, brewed and bottled it. I think you would more likely feel the wrath of Inbev by calling it Budweiser than if you called it Zippity Do Da. But then you would have to deal with Disney.



 
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