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Old 02-06-2012, 09:59 PM   #1
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So.... I tried making some cider. I mixed 4 gallons with yeast... fermented it... added camden tablets and potassium sorbate. Stuck it into a keg under pressure... I'm not sure what happened. It seems to sweet and not fermented enough yet.... the question is... is this fixable? Can I take the pressure off and repitch some new yeast?... or will the potassium sorbate stop it? Any way to fix this?


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Old 02-06-2012, 10:37 PM   #2
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No, you're pretty much screwed. You should buy a hydrometer and take gravity readings next time. At the very least, taste it before adding campden and sorbate.


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Old 02-06-2012, 10:39 PM   #3
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No, you're pretty much screwed. You should buy a hydrometer and take gravity readings next time. At the very least, taste it before adding campden and sorbate.
Yeah... was going to take gravities...its a longer story than above involving a neighbor, but yeah. Figured it was screwed. Thx.
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So.... I tried making some cider. I mixed 4 gallons with yeast... fermented it... added camden tablets and potassium sorbate. Stuck it into a keg under pressure... I'm not sure what happened. It seems to sweet and not fermented enough yet.... the question is... is this fixable? Can I take the pressure off and repitch some new yeast?... or will the potassium sorbate stop it? Any way to fix this?
You should be able to get it fermenting again by making a big healthy starter and pitching it at about 70 degrees.

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What's the current gravity? Take a sample, shake it up (if it's carbed) and let it warm to 60f (if it's cold).

You can almost certainly get the fermentation going again with a big starter - assuming you dosed it correctly with the k sorbate.

Also, was this store bought juice (Motts, Kirkland, etc)? That will help to give me an idea of the original gravity.
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What's the current gravity? Take a sample, shake it up (if it's carbed) and let it warm to 60f (if it's cold).

You can almost certainly get the fermentation going again with a big starter - assuming you dosed it correctly with the k sorbate.

Also, was this store bought juice (Motts, Kirkland, etc)? That will help to give me an idea of the original gravity.
I'll grab a sample when I get home tomorrow from school. I am pretty sure I dosed the K Sorbate right. I have some DME and a big vessel, so I could make a pretty big starter and repitch after I move it back to a carboy (from the keg)... or should I just leave it in the keg?

Oh ... also its local cider...
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they say you want to make the starter out of similar stuff to what you're pitching it into ('they' being people who know more about yeast than i do). i can't vouch for the veracity of that idea; maybe it only applies to maltose.... but i would be inclined to make it using apple juice, or simple sugars and yeast nutrient, no- i'm in over my head here suddenly...
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Me... at this point I would settle for drinkable. Gravity was 1.025 or so after degassing.

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you shouldn't need to pitch any new yeast. Unless you cold crashed and racked before you added the sorbate and campden tabs the fermentation is still active. put it in a carboy and let it finish.
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I would probably get another gallon and add 1/2 to a pound cane sugar.
let it completely ferment out dry. then shake it up and pitch the whole lot into 5 gallon carboy.
if the fermentation doesnt kick off least you will have diluted it out a little with a higher alcohol and a dryer cider.


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