Coldbreak Brewing Giveaway - Open to All!

Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > All Grain & Partial Mash Brewing > Low efficiency problems.
Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 05-19-2007, 12:12 AM   #1
Big Al
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Big Al's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 178
Liked 1 Times on 1 Posts

Default Low efficiency problems.

At least I got to brew twice today, but as I'm still new to AG I'm having problems with my efficiency.

I brewed an Arrogant Bastard Clone recipe last night with a target OG of 1.078 at 75% efficiency

I ended up with 1.069 65%(Better than my 1st attempt of 1.060)

Today I brewed an IPA target OG 1.071 at 75% actual (1.061) 65%

I'm using a new Mash Tun which is a 48 qt rectangular cooler. My questions are:

1) Should I just expect lower efficiency from the rectangular cooler and plan accordingly?
2) What can I do to improve my efficiency.

Both were Single Temperature Infusion Mashes at 152 degrees for 1 hour. I sparged at 170 degrees and collected about 6.2 gallons of wort which boiled down to right around 5 Gals.

It's not the crush either, I'm grinding my own and couldnt' be happier with the results from my MaltMill.

Thanks for any help in advance!


__________________
Primary - If it's not Scottish it's CRAP Ale
Primary Imperial IPA
Secondary -
Bottled and drinking: Hey!Hey! IPA, Land of Oz Barleywine #2, Caramel Creme Ale, Red Stripe Lager Clone


RIP: Oatmeal Stout, Octoberfestivus, 777 RPA, Fat Tire Clone (1st AG), Experimental Honey Brown
Big Al is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 05-19-2007, 12:16 AM   #2
Beerrific
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Beerrific's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Georgia
Posts: 5,600
Liked 50 Times on 42 Posts
Likes Given: 9

Default

Are you making any adjustments for pH?


Beerrific is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 05-19-2007, 12:27 AM   #3
Big Al
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Big Al's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 178
Liked 1 Times on 1 Posts

Default

No. Not doing that. I did just order a pH tester as I have just been assuming that 60 minutes is long enough to date.

I'm not sure what type of adjustments I should be making though?
__________________
Primary - If it's not Scottish it's CRAP Ale
Primary Imperial IPA
Secondary -
Bottled and drinking: Hey!Hey! IPA, Land of Oz Barleywine #2, Caramel Creme Ale, Red Stripe Lager Clone


RIP: Oatmeal Stout, Octoberfestivus, 777 RPA, Fat Tire Clone (1st AG), Experimental Honey Brown
Big Al is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 05-19-2007, 12:49 AM   #4
Jaybird
Sponsor
HBT_SPONSOR.png
HomeBrewTalk 2012 Vendor Giveaway Participate
Vendor Ads 
Feedback Score: 2 reviews
 
Jaybird's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Nor*Cal
Posts: 6,662
Liked 611 Times on 430 Posts
Likes Given: 179

Default

shoot for 154 deg F and how much H2O PER # of grain are you using? Crush is very important as well. you say its not the crush but how do you really know?
JJ
__________________
Need a False Bottom for your Keg, Kettle or Cooler?

I have been making custom False Bottoms for just about everything since 2008

Nor Cal Brewing Solutions, Reddings local homebrew store
(530)243-BEER and (530)221-WINE


Still have questions PM me here or hit the website.

http://www.norcalbrewingsolutions.com and like us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/NorCalBrewingSolutionsfor Facebook only promos too
Smoke Cigars? www.stogietoys.com

*Member: The HBT Sweaty Fat Guy Cigar Club
Jaybird is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 05-19-2007, 12:50 AM   #5
Jaybird
Sponsor
HBT_SPONSOR.png
HomeBrewTalk 2012 Vendor Giveaway Participate
Vendor Ads 
Feedback Score: 2 reviews
 
Jaybird's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Nor*Cal
Posts: 6,662
Liked 611 Times on 430 Posts
Likes Given: 179

Default

Ph just add PH 5.2 to the mash you cant beat it. I dont know how the stuff works but I do know it does
JJ
__________________
Need a False Bottom for your Keg, Kettle or Cooler?

I have been making custom False Bottoms for just about everything since 2008

Nor Cal Brewing Solutions, Reddings local homebrew store
(530)243-BEER and (530)221-WINE


Still have questions PM me here or hit the website.

http://www.norcalbrewingsolutions.com and like us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/NorCalBrewingSolutionsfor Facebook only promos too
Smoke Cigars? www.stogietoys.com

*Member: The HBT Sweaty Fat Guy Cigar Club
Jaybird is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 05-19-2007, 12:52 AM   #6
jdoiv
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
jdoiv's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Nashville, TN
Posts: 1,149
Default

Have you tried the 5.2 buffer yet? I'm using that and grinding my own and hitting over 85%. Water chemistry is a big part of efficiency. I don't think the shape of the tun makes much difference. Water to grain ratio is important as well.
__________________
Drinking on the keg: BPA, Brown Ale, Dry Mead, Wee Heavy aged on Oak, CAP
Drinking in the Bottle:
Conditioning:
Fermenting:
Planning:
jdoiv is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 05-19-2007, 01:16 AM   #7
Sir Humpsalot
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Sir Humpsalot's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 4,043
Liked 84 Times on 67 Posts
Likes Given: 22

Default

What's your water to grain ratio?
__________________
In Process: Mango Beer, Homebrewers Pale Ale
Bottled/Kegged:Spicy Light Rye, Rice-adjunct Pale Ale, Mild Bourbon Porter, Roasty Stout, Basic Light Mead, Bourbon County Stout Clone
Up Next: Berlinerweiss, Chocolate Raspberry Ale, and American IPA
Sir Humpsalot is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 05-19-2007, 03:36 AM   #8
Big Al
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Big Al's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 178
Liked 1 Times on 1 Posts

Default

1.5 qts to lbs.

I know it's not the grain crush because I've seen pictures of what a perfect crush looks like. Mine is coming out very similar. Having researched a bit on the net, I'm also thinking that my sparge might be too fast (there's a joke there I'm sure). As I'm new to this, i'm not sure if it's normal to have collected the wort in about 35 minutes after the sparge begins? Is that too fast?

I'll start looking into the 5.2 buffer as well.
__________________
Primary - If it's not Scottish it's CRAP Ale
Primary Imperial IPA
Secondary -
Bottled and drinking: Hey!Hey! IPA, Land of Oz Barleywine #2, Caramel Creme Ale, Red Stripe Lager Clone


RIP: Oatmeal Stout, Octoberfestivus, 777 RPA, Fat Tire Clone (1st AG), Experimental Honey Brown
Big Al is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 05-19-2007, 03:40 AM   #9
Big Al
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Big Al's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 178
Liked 1 Times on 1 Posts

Default

Aha. This may be a key. I'm using bottled spring water as my water. I just saw the pH 5.2 at austin home brew and I think I'll order some. Perhaps that's contributing to my problem.
__________________
Primary - If it's not Scottish it's CRAP Ale
Primary Imperial IPA
Secondary -
Bottled and drinking: Hey!Hey! IPA, Land of Oz Barleywine #2, Caramel Creme Ale, Red Stripe Lager Clone


RIP: Oatmeal Stout, Octoberfestivus, 777 RPA, Fat Tire Clone (1st AG), Experimental Honey Brown
Big Al is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 05-19-2007, 11:43 AM   #10
jdoiv
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
jdoiv's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Nashville, TN
Posts: 1,149
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Al
1.5 qts to lbs.

I know it's not the grain crush because I've seen pictures of what a perfect crush looks like. Mine is coming out very similar. Having researched a bit on the net, I'm also thinking that my sparge might be too fast (there's a joke there I'm sure). As I'm new to this, i'm not sure if it's normal to have collected the wort in about 35 minutes after the sparge begins? Is that too fast?

I'll start looking into the 5.2 buffer as well.

Are you batch sparging or fly sparging? 35 minutes would be way to fast for fly sparging. Try to slow your flow rate down to half that and your efficiency would go way up. If batch sparging, tell us your procedure.


__________________
Drinking on the keg: BPA, Brown Ale, Dry Mead, Wee Heavy aged on Oak, CAP
Drinking in the Bottle:
Conditioning:
Fermenting:
Planning:
jdoiv is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Regulator problems? Or Judo problems? Judochop Bottling/Kegging 11 05-13-2015 03:14 PM
Efficiency Problems uabericm All Grain & Partial Mash Brewing 8 07-31-2009 05:11 PM
consistency/efficiency problems mkultra69 General Techniques 4 07-29-2008 02:18 AM
Partial Mash/AG Efficiency Problems efreem01 All Grain & Partial Mash Brewing 5 10-04-2007 04:18 PM
Chillzilla Efficiency Problems DirtyMick Equipment/Sanitation 5 08-28-2007 07:17 PM


Forum Jump

Newest Threads

LATEST SPONSOR DEALS