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Old 01-17-2012, 05:20 AM   #1
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I have a really good amber/apa that is a staple at my house. I'm looking to make an ipa too but would like a similarity. Is it possible to just up the base grain and hops to appropriate levels to change this beer into an ipa?
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Old 01-17-2012, 06:25 AM   #2
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I think it depends on how high of an OG you will be shooting for. You can stay close for a little bit by keeping the same OG/IBU ratio, but when you start getting above 1.080 then you may have to worry about it. Palmer has talked a bit about this in general for making high gravity brews, but I can't remember exactly what he said.
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Old 01-17-2012, 12:07 PM   #3

Need to see the recipe before we can help...
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Old 01-17-2012, 04:57 PM   #4
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Recipe is as follows:

6# 2-Row
1# Munich
1.5# C20
1# C60
8oz Carapils
1oz Chocolate

1oz Willamete @60*
.5oz Cascade @15
.5oz Cascade @15

1oz Dry Hop Cascade @7days

I'm changing this soon as I feel it is a waste to use willametes instead of something similar with a higher AA% such as Columbus.
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Old 01-17-2012, 05:49 PM   #5
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So if I up the Base Malt to 8lbs and changing the hopping as follows:

Columbus .75 @ 60

.5 oz Cascade @ 20
.5 oz Cascade @ 15
.5 oz Cascade @ 10
.5 oz Cascade @ 5
.5 oz Cascade @ FO

1oz Cascade Dry Hop for 7 Days


This fits the BJCP style guide for a American IPA and im still using the same specialty grains. Does this look ok?
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Old 01-17-2012, 06:08 PM   #6
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2.5 lbs of crystal malt? That's really high. But hey, it's your party.
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Old 01-17-2012, 06:45 PM   #7
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Yeah, it's your party, but I know I made a 1.065 IPA with 11% C60 and felt that was rather malty and drowned out the hops (used 3oz in last 15 minutes). It was candy-like. Good but not quite what I expected (so not great).
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Old 01-17-2012, 07:50 PM   #8
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I really like the amber version but I didn't know how it would trasnfer. Would like 12oz and 8 oz of each respectively be better. Is the lighter color ok in this style. I just want it to be similar tasting and but i understand how the malty could be overwhelming.
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Old 01-17-2012, 08:12 PM   #9
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Really it's all up to your tastebuds. I drank two IPAs last night, one with crystal and one without, and far preferred the non-crystal version. If you really like your amber, I suggest keeping the Crystal amounts the same and upping the base malt and hop schedule like you planned on doing. Maybe on the next batch you can mix it up and see what you like better
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Old 01-17-2012, 08:27 PM   #10
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IMO, and it's just MO. Enhanced Pale Ale recipes do not make IPA's. I like Pale Ales a little sweeter. Similar to yours but not quite as much crystal. My IPA's have less crystal and more 2-row and some sugar. YMMV. Cheers!!!
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