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Old 01-13-2012, 06:44 PM   #1
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I've done some reading on the bucket vs. carboy debate. One thing I saw was that spigot buckets have the advantage of simplifying bottling by eliminating the need to siphon. I'm probably going to do my second brew (a pumpkin spice ale from the local shop) in a bucket since the carboy's busy with the Scottish ale.

I have a 6.5G glass carboy (in use; I'm giving it another week or so), 6.5G Brewer's Best bucket, and 6.5G True Brew bucket with a spigot. I also picked up an autosiphon last night and I have a manual siphon with wand and one of the automatic shutoff bottling tips.

How is the sediment transfer with the spigot on a bucket? Do you find that it's high enough to not transfer trub? And would I be bottling directly from the primary to the bottles or is the spigot intended to transfer to a separate bottling bucket? How would you do it with the equipment I had listed above?

 
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Old 01-13-2012, 06:53 PM   #2
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Word to the wise: the answer to the carboy/bucket question is a Better Bottle. I exclusively use Better Bottles.

That being said, I would ferment in the bucket, siphon to the bottling bucket on top of corn sugar solution, then bottle.

I would be concerned with sediment transfer (who wants to go through all the work of making beer just to get crap in your glass) as well as proper mixing of the priming solution without stirring and aerating the fermented beer.
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Old 01-13-2012, 07:08 PM   #3
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I have spigots on both my fermenters,& by the time I'm ready to transfer to bottling bucket,I get little or no trub with the transfer. The yeast cake is compacted on the bottom enough where I don't get all the trub in with it. If you do,it hasn't settled out long enough.
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Old 01-13-2012, 07:18 PM   #4
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For my second go I want to minimize sediment as much as I can since it'll be lighter.

To get the well-compacted trub I should give it an extra week? The current brew started at OG 1.040 and was in primary for 7 days and has been in secondary for 2 days. The bubbling rate was never much throughout the process but I could see krausen around the top of the primary bucket (didn't take a reading). It is still bubbling in secondary albeit like two bubbles per hour. I was thinking of checking the FG for bottling on the 14th day, but I've seen some things saying the whole process should take 3 - 4 weeks.

The ABV of the original kit was ~3.5% so the homebrew guy at the shop said I should add in an extra pound of amber DME to get the ABV up to ~4.5 or 5% so I've been waiting since I'm not sure what to expect for an FG.

 
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1 pound of DME might get you 4%. Def not 5%. You should've let it finish in primary. Too many folks are in a rush to get the beer done,but the yeasts have their own timetable. Not much more you can do now but wait till the 2 week mark,& use a hydrometr to check for OG.
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Old 01-13-2012, 07:29 PM   #6
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I didn't mean to rush it. The kit instructions said two weeks in primary, or one week in primary and two in secondary. I see now that secondary is not as necessary as first perceived.

 
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Old 01-13-2012, 09:01 PM   #7
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I've been using a bottling bucket for each of my brews. I have 4 under my belt that I have bottled and a 5th that is sitting in primary still. For all of the ones that I bottled I made the priming solution and put it in the bottling bucket and then just racked from the secondary and avoided the trub on the bottom of the carboy. I had no sediment transferred from the carboy to the bottling bucket. Just make sure to mix it well once it is in the bucket to ensure that each bottle is carbonated the same. Thats one mistake that I have made.

 
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Old 01-13-2012, 09:03 PM   #8
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"as well as proper mixing of the priming solution without stirring and aerating the fermented beer"


Could you elaborate on what the proper method is? Or did you just mean put the corn sugar water in the bottom of the bottling bucket, siphon from fermenter bucket directly on top of the corn sugar water, and that is all that needs to be done, it mixes itself?

 
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Old 01-13-2012, 09:04 PM   #9
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I wouldn't use a bucket with a spigot for anything other than bottling, they have tendencies to leak. A batch of beer isn't worth that risk for the minimal gain and slight if any convenience factor of using a spigot to transfer. Plus bottling off a siphon I would imagine as being a pain in the ass. Just use your bucket with the spigot as a dedicated bottling bucket and save yourself the hassle.

 
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Yeah,those kit instruction's time tables are def wack. It takes more time than that to get down to a stable FG in most instances. Patience is the key in brewing good beer. The priming solution & beer does mix ok during racking,but I still have seen that some gentle stirring after racking helps it carbonate more evenly during bottle conditioning.
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