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Old 01-07-2012, 07:37 PM   #1
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I bought a brewers best Kolsch kit yesterday (Friday) and the LHBS had a Wyeast 2565 packet which I bought and would like to use. They had it refrigerated, and I am wondering how long I need to wait until its room temperature before I can brew. The guy that works there said wait until tomorrow (Sunday) to brew. Do u guys think I could brew today with it, or do you agree with him and wait until tomorrow?

We already smacked the packet at the LHBS when I bought it, and the package has started to swell, although I'm not sure how big it's supposed to get.



 
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Old 01-07-2012, 07:39 PM   #2
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smack it and let it swell for a few hours before pitching, it should be at room temp by then. you really should be making a starter when using liquid yeast cultures.


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Old 01-07-2012, 08:36 PM   #3
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My procedure is usually to take the pack from the fridge 3 - 4 hours before smacking and allow to warm to room temperature. I then smack the pack, wait for it to swell (you actually don't have to but many do,) then make a starter.

I've waited as long as 24 hours before pitching a swollen pack with good results.


 
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Old 01-07-2012, 09:07 PM   #4
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Is a starter really necessary? What would happen if I don't use one?

 
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Old 01-07-2012, 09:13 PM   #5
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I watched a YouTube video a little bit back with a Wyeast tech talking about this. He said 4-6 hours is ideal and that waiting too long could actually stress the yeast. Search it for 'when should smack wyeast' and you'll find it.

 
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Old 01-07-2012, 09:15 PM   #6
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I've actually never used Wyeast, but I have used White Labs vials without a starter and made great beer. Starters are still nice with White Labs, but not necessary it seems to me. How "big" is the beer you're going to be making, as in what is the SG supposed to be? If it's low to mid gravity I bet it would be fine, though making a starter never hurts.

 
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Old 01-07-2012, 09:18 PM   #7
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I use Wyeast and usually just get it out of the fridge in the morning and smack it right away. I'm usually pitching it within 4-6 hours after and have made fine beer that way. I've never used a starter with a Wyeast smack pack.

 
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Is a starter really necessary? What would happen if I don't use one?
it's not necessary, just recommended. to know what the results of pitching a single liquid pack, search for the results of 'under pitching' beer, because in almost any beer with an OG over 1.03, one pack or vial of liquid yeast is an under pitch.
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Old 01-07-2012, 11:35 PM   #9
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I do have a Nottingham dry yeast packet that came with the kit, would I be better off using that? Or perhaps mix a little dry with the Wyeast?

I do not have any dme to make a starter, and I need to brew tonight.

 
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Old 01-08-2012, 12:11 AM   #10
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I would say just pitch the Wyeast and you'll be fine. Don't worry about the starter this time around.



 
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