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Old 10-08-2013, 10:02 PM   #4761
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I built this kreezer from carsiding, and oak faced plywood for the top. Scraps of 2x6 pine "mop boards", sanded, stained and epoxy'd. Just two taps, room for a third down the line. Has a 2x4 collar like many others underneath the carsiding, and also on the bottom with wheels. I opted for no fan into the coffin, have not had any issues with warm beer from that. Works great! If you want to see my all electric setup, i posted a picture of that in another forum or pm me.


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Old 10-08-2013, 10:51 PM   #4762
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I asked this in another thread but it hit the bottom quickly and didn't get answered....

For the guys with keezer builds: I want to build one soon, but I am torn between having a tower or just a collar. Does the extra weight on top make it a pain to get in and out of? It seems like all of the extra weight, especially those with tile or a lot of extras, would really weigh it down and be awkward to manipulate when needed.



 
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Old 10-08-2013, 11:35 PM   #4763
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Mine isn't too heavy. I don't need a stock to hold it open

 
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Old 10-08-2013, 11:36 PM   #4764
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Stick that is....

 
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Old 10-09-2013, 12:55 AM   #4765
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My lid (with tower) is very heavy. I could see where anyone with any sort of physical set backs might have trouble lifting it. I'm a big guy, so it's no problem for me. The only real benefit with it being so heavy is it actually makes it top heavy when I open it. This causes the lid to stay open very well. I don't need a stick to prop mine open either...
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Old 10-09-2013, 01:58 AM   #4766
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Physical set backs aren't an issue for me. I like the idea of a tower, but was just wondering about the convenience of getting in and out of it and I also did not really want to have to cut a big hole in the lid of my freezer if I didn't have to.

It got me thinking... why couldn't I have the best of both worlds? I haven't seen one like this so I borrowed a couple of pics from this thread (thanks to biermuncher & trent) and tried to piece my idea together. Sorry for the bad photoshop...



A nice box could still be built around it to dress it up a bit. What do you guys think?

 
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Old 10-09-2013, 02:11 AM   #4767
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Physical set backs aren't an issue for me. I like the idea of a tower, but was just wondering about the convenience of getting in and out of it and I also did not really want to have to cut a big hole in the lid of my freezer if I didn't have to.

It got me thinking... why couldn't I have the best of both worlds? I haven't seen one like this so I borrowed a couple of pics from this thread (thanks to biermuncher & trent) and tried to piece my idea together. Sorry for the bad photoshop...

A nice box could still be built around it to dress it up a bit. What do you guys think?
The only thing about the tower on mine is the fact that it has to be moved away from the wall to lift the lid, but that might have even been an issue on a collar build. I built my unit on a homemade dolly with 6 nice soft poly wheels, so it's no problem to roll it away from the wall when opening.

I'd say don't bother with a collar unless you need it for height. My kegs have plenty of room above them without the collar. With the collar you're just creating the need for more circulation of cool air. You'll have that problem with a tower too, but with both you might have trouble keeping the inside of the tower cool without strong or multiple fans inside the unit.
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Old 10-09-2013, 02:19 AM   #4768
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The only thing about the tower on mine is the fact that it has to be moved away from the wall to lift the lid, but that might have even been an issue on a collar build. I built my unit on a homemade dolly with 6 nice soft poly wheels, so it's no problem to roll it away from the wall when opening.

I'd say don't bother with a collar unless you need it for height. My kegs have plenty of room above them without the collar. With the collar you're just creating the need for more circulation of cool air. You'll have that problem with a tower too, but with both you might have trouble keeping the inside of the tower cool without strong or multiple fans inside the unit.
The only reason for the collar in combination with the tower would be to have a tower without cutting holes in the actual freezer itself. I figured I might need fan for this type of tower, but do you really think the extra six inches or so of the collar would affect the circulation that much?

 
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Old 10-09-2013, 02:40 AM   #4769
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The only reason for the collar in combination with the tower would be to have a tower without cutting holes in the actual freezer itself. I figured I might need fan for this type of tower, but do you really think the extra six inches or so of the collar would affect the circulation that much?
You still have to make holes in the lid for the type of tower you pictured. If you plan to blow air through it with a fan, the holes will have to be big enough to allow the airflow.

I have a fermentation chamber with a collar that looks just like the photo you posted of the freezer. Even with a fan the temp in the collar area is warmer than the temp just slightly below the collar.

So to answer your question, yes I think you'll have circulation problems with a collar and tower. You'll definitely need at least one (maybe 2) fan for the collar area and another to blow through the tower. I would also think you would need to keep the unit running very cool (low 30's) to maintain decent temps all the way up in to the tower.
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Old 10-09-2013, 03:07 AM   #4770
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You still have to make holes in the lid for the type of tower you pictured. If you plan to blow air through it with a fan, the holes will have to be big enough to allow the airflow.
I guess the picture didn't translate very well. The idea was that the bases would come out and up from the collar at 90 degrees and then arching up and over in front of the keezer. The fan could also be located at the mouth of the base at the opening in the collar.




 
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