Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > Electric Brewing > Cloning kal
Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 09-21-2012, 07:58 PM   #21
sils13
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Cedar Rapids, IA
Posts: 144
Liked 8 Times on 6 Posts
Likes Given: 3

Default

Sorry for the late response I never got a notice of a post ummm I guess I don't know to much about specifics of DIN rail the stuff i got was just laying around the job box at work the stuff I have is 1" 3/8 i would think that "DIN" should b pretty universal more of the depth of the rail that changes..... I hope that helps a little bit ill take a peak at McMaster and c what's up.
Also with your wire mold I used 1" 1/8 and that was pushing it once I got some number 10's in there

The DIN rail I have must b din 1 if I'm reading that rite


sils13 is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 11-09-2012, 10:43 PM   #22
sils13
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Cedar Rapids, IA
Posts: 144
Liked 8 Times on 6 Posts
Likes Given: 3

Default

Just some updates nothing crazy but I've kinda tried to work it into my brewing slowly also mainly I just want to use



Click image for larger version

Name:	image-2150499893.jpg
Views:	628
Size:	29.5 KB
ID:	83160



Click image for larger version

Name:	image-1989189763.jpg
Views:	620
Size:	32.3 KB
ID:	83159



Click image for larger version

Name:	image-3556530974.jpg
Views:	637
Size:	57.9 KB
ID:	83155



Click image for larger version

Name:	image-1591593441.jpg
Views:	632
Size:	49.5 KB
ID:	83154



Click image for larger version

Name:	image-830303435.jpg
Views:	636
Size:	51.1 KB
ID:	83163
It'd b awesome

Click image for larger version

Name:	image-1401164727.jpg
Views:	635
Size:	47.4 KB
ID:	83164
This too lol


sils13 is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2012, 02:20 PM   #23
sils13
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Cedar Rapids, IA
Posts: 144
Liked 8 Times on 6 Posts
Likes Given: 3

Default

So I'm at the point where I am gonna starting building my keggles and I'm looking for some input. I'm bouncing between soldering, weldless, or welded my buddy and I messed around with welded but we were never able to get clean welds. We r no experts by any means and we didn't use solar flux or any type of gas purge but it seemed to be time consuming with disappointing results we welded the inside and out, outside was nice and clean but the inside got messy
I like the idea of soldering nice and clean but i haven't been able to source a dimple tool so that's my only downside really on that. I have also thought about dimpling to the inside of the keg and welding the outside which would allow my friend to get much cleaner welds mainly due to ease of access
And last the weldless have just recently popped into my head just because of the simpleness, but at the same time my goal is a life long system here. I've never had a problem with weldless they were great but I don't wanna worry about orings

I've done a ton of reading on here so ice defiantly done my research just looking for some suggestions thanks a bunch!!
sils13 is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2012, 03:01 PM   #24
BadNewsBrewery
Basement Brewer
HBT_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
BadNewsBrewery's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Severn, MD
Posts: 1,225
Liked 125 Times on 101 Posts
Likes Given: 64

Default

I've used weldless without problems for years. Can't beat the simplicity.

Edit- typo
__________________
Building a Bad News Brewery - eHERMS

2014 - 70gal
2015:
10gal American Pale Ale
5gal Wee Heavy
10gal Irish Red

Keg 1: Apfelwein
Keg 2: American Pale Ale
Keg 3: Wee Heavy
Untapped Kegs: Irish Red
Fermenting: Nothing (need to start drinking!)
BadNewsBrewery is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2012, 06:25 AM   #25
Jester
Senior Member
HBT_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Jester's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
Posts: 616
Liked 2 Times on 1 Posts
Likes Given: 1

Default

I am also starting to plan my Kal clone build and have been looking Ito DIN rails for organizing the box. Did you have to use any different parts than Kal's list in order to use DIN rails? Thanks.
Jester is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2012, 12:53 PM   #26
kal
HBT_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
kal's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Ottawa, Canada
Posts: 2,266
Liked 241 Times on 161 Posts
Likes Given: 6

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jester View Post
I am also starting to plan my Kal clone build and have been looking Ito DIN rails for organizing the box. Did you have to use any different parts than Kal's list in order to use DIN rails? Thanks.
Yes. None of the parts I use come with DIN rail mounts.

DIN rails are great when fast serviceability is required. You often see them a lot in plant floor environment where downtime needs to be minimized. You turn the power off, snap out the old defective part, and snap in the new one. Takes less than a minute.

For a home brewery it's of questionable value. By all means use DIN rails and DIN rail mounted products, but make sure you realize why you want to and what your reasoning is.

Kal
kal is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2012, 01:14 PM   #27
BadNewsBrewery
Basement Brewer
HBT_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
BadNewsBrewery's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Severn, MD
Posts: 1,225
Liked 125 Times on 101 Posts
Likes Given: 64

Default

I used a lot of the information from Kal's site for my build, but didn't quite clone it. That being said, purely by chance, all of my components are DIN mount. I ordered two 30a and one 50a contactor, and the relay base for the Safe Start Interlock - they happened to be DIN. So I also got DIN mountable breakers and terminal blocks. I didn't get DIN mount fuses so I think that's about it.

I'm in the process of laying out my panel and the DIN rails will give me the flexibility to dry-fit things in various layouts until I'm happy. Once finalized though, I'm not going to be swapping them out or working in the panel. Like Kal says - once built, the DIN mounted equipment will sit there the same as a bolted down component.
__________________
Building a Bad News Brewery - eHERMS

2014 - 70gal
2015:
10gal American Pale Ale
5gal Wee Heavy
10gal Irish Red

Keg 1: Apfelwein
Keg 2: American Pale Ale
Keg 3: Wee Heavy
Untapped Kegs: Irish Red
Fermenting: Nothing (need to start drinking!)
BadNewsBrewery is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2012, 02:46 PM   #28
Jester
Senior Member
HBT_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Jester's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
Posts: 616
Liked 2 Times on 1 Posts
Likes Given: 1

Default

Thanks for the reply! I was just looking at DIN rails since it seems to be all the hype lately. Sicne I was planning on ordering the parts kit from Kal, I won't be looking into that path then. Thanks again Kal and BadNewsBrewery.
Jester is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2012, 11:13 AM   #29
psbuckland
Feedback Score: 2 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Frederick, MD
Posts: 189
Liked 3 Times on 3 Posts

Default

It depends on the level of automation and complexity of the home brewery to gauge the true value if DIN rails. With a Kal style panel, automation is next to nil, but with a Brewtroller or other advanced system DIN rail mounted and wired equipment is golden. If a valve fails half-way through your high gravity IPA, the ease of replacement really comes in handy.
psbuckland is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-23-2012, 03:30 PM   #30
sils13
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Cedar Rapids, IA
Posts: 144
Liked 8 Times on 6 Posts
Likes Given: 3

Default

Just some updates

he sink installed
Click image for larger version

Name:	image-2403219079.jpg
Views:	468
Size:	44.9 KB
ID:	89962


receptacles installed just need some silicone
Click image for larger version

Name:	image-2140331686.jpg
Views:	459
Size:	42.5 KB
ID:	89963


power distribution
2 pull breaker for my elements and everything else is on the single pull
Click image for larger version

Name:	image-3064228447.jpg
Views:	468
Size:	52.4 KB
ID:	89964


SSR's
Click image for larger version

Name:	image-205775566.jpg
Views:	466
Size:	51.6 KB
ID:	89965


back panel
Click image for larger version

Name:	image-3551582841.jpg
Views:	476
Size:	56.1 KB
ID:	89966


door guts
Click image for larger version

Name:	image-103469536.jpg
Views:	454
Size:	61.3 KB
ID:	89968


front on panel all done hope to order tags on friday
Click image for larger version

Name:	image-2875748176.jpg
Views:	453
Size:	42.3 KB
ID:	89967


kegs all ready to go
ordered all my fittings friday from stainless brewing and temp probes should arrive monday from spike
possible my hop stopper as well
false bottom from jaybird probably gonna order friday as well and then thats it i should have everything
Click image for larger version

Name:	image-3542930679.jpg
Views:	458
Size:	56.0 KB
ID:	89970


receptacles outside
Click image for larger version

Name:	image-1145746909.jpg
Views:	461
Size:	55.1 KB
ID:	89969


kegs
Click image for larger version

Name:	image-2462066475.jpg
Views:	449
Size:	59.0 KB
ID:	89971


homemade CFC
Click image for larger version

Name:	image-2630199114.jpg
Views:	457
Size:	47.8 KB
ID:	89973


CFC
Click image for larger version

Name:	image-795497356.jpg
Views:	454
Size:	50.3 KB
ID:	89975


elements cords should have them made up by the end of the day
Click image for larger version

Name:	image-2530162084.jpg
Views:	446
Size:	46.7 KB
ID:	89974


Click image for larger version

Name:	image-2723735755.jpg
Views:	539
Size:	54.8 KB
ID:	89972  
sils13 is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools



Forum Jump

Newest Threads

LATEST SPONSOR DEALS