Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > DIY Projects > Brew Stands > Converting a steam kettle to gas burner
Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 12-24-2011, 03:48 PM   #1
neckbone
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 150
Default Converting a steam kettle to gas burner

Is it possible to convert a kettle from steam jacketed to something I can use with a burner? My brother has 4 he pulled from a job site. I'd love to have one of them, but I'm not going to waste my time if I can't use them.


__________________
Primary: Nada
Secondary: Squat
Bottled: Nut Brown
neckbone is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-24-2011, 04:06 PM   #2
outside92129
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
outside92129's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Carlsbad, CA
Posts: 1,224
Liked 63 Times on 51 Posts
Likes Given: 28

Default

Post a pic? Might make a good mash tun. Or It would be very efficient (and super neat) having the burner exhaust go through the jackets and out some vents.


outside92129 is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-24-2011, 06:19 PM   #3
neckbone
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 150
Default

Here are some pics of the kettles
Click image for larger version

Name:	IMAG0021.jpg
Views:	780
Size:	39.3 KB
ID:	41506   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMAG0019.jpg
Views:	624
Size:	26.0 KB
ID:	41507  
__________________
Primary: Nada
Secondary: Squat
Bottled: Nut Brown
neckbone is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-24-2011, 06:47 PM   #4
TimT
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Victoria, BC
Posts: 136
Liked 9 Times on 8 Posts
Likes Given: 5

Default

Sell it and buy a nice kettle. It should be worth a good amount of cash.
TimT is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-24-2011, 06:56 PM   #5
Bsquared
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Bsquared's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Diego
Posts: 1,830
Liked 59 Times on 53 Posts
Likes Given: 22

Default

You have 4 of these? wow.

you'd probably have to ruin them to use them as a direct fire, and kettles that size (~40-60gallons) sell on ebay for around 2K. They could make a great open fermenters for big baches. You could pump water through the jacket to control temp. Or try to find a used steam boiler and set your self up with a 1-2bbl system.

If I where you and are not sure what to do with them, I'd try to sell them and use the money to buy exactly what you want.
Bsquared is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-24-2011, 06:59 PM   #6
Bezel
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Boise, Idaho
Posts: 90
Liked 1 Times on 1 Posts
Likes Given: 1

Default

Mash tun?
Bezel is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-24-2011, 07:01 PM   #7
neckbone
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 150
Default

misread post
__________________
Primary: Nada
Secondary: Squat
Bottled: Nut Brown
neckbone is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-24-2011, 07:03 PM   #8
Quaker
Beer Missionary
HBT_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Quaker's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Burlington, WI
Posts: 864
Liked 76 Times on 57 Posts
Likes Given: 13

Default

Dadant Beekeeping has a steam generator used to power decapping knives. It uses an electric heater and a repurposed propane tank. Not sure if it has the power to bring that large of volume to a boil, but it should make a keen mash ton. And plumbing water through the jacket with a cooler would make for a large fermenter. I wouldn't ruin them; I'd sell one and use the money to accessorize the others. Heck if you can get $2k for one, you could buy a proper steam boiler.
__________________
My father says, "hobbies are supposed to cost money".
Quaker is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-24-2011, 07:51 PM   #9
billtzk
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Dallas
Posts: 1,627
Liked 22 Times on 20 Posts
Likes Given: 6

Default

You could use them with a steam source for boil kettle, mash, and HLT. You need a properly sized steam boiler, either gas, electric, propane, or oil fired, depending on what's cheapest and most reliable to operate in your area. Plus condensate pumps and lots of plumbing. The manufacturer of the kettles should have specs on the kind of system needed to power them.

I don't believe such a system should be jerry-rigged. There are a lot of safety considerations. You should have a competent contractor design a system and build it.

Find the section of this page with heading Steam Source Needed for a Small Jacketed Kettle for some good basic info.

Quote:
Originally Posted by neckbone View Post
Is it possible to convert a kettle from steam jacketed to something I can use with a burner?
I would say no. In that article, the question about direct firing is addressed, and the writer said it isn't feasible:

Quote:
As for equipping the kettle with a burner, forget it. Low pressure steam is at most 250F (121C). There is no way a jacket built for steam will hold up under a gas flame.
__________________
Reality is a crutch for people who can't cope with drugs. -Lily Tomlin
billtzk is offline
neckbone Likes This 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-24-2011, 08:20 PM   #10
neckbone
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 150
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by billtzk View Post
You could use them with a steam source for boil kettle, mash, and HLT. You need a properly sized steam boiler, either gas, electric, propane, or oil fired, depending on what's cheapest and most reliable to operate in your area. Plus condensate pumps and lots of plumbing. The manufacturer of the kettles should have specs on the kind of system needed to power them.

I don't believe such a system should be jerry-rigged. There are a lot of safety considerations. You should have a competent contractor design a system and build it.

Find the section of this page with heading Steam Source Needed for a Small Jacketed Kettle for some good basic info.



I would say no. In that article, the question about direct firing is addressed, and the writer said it isn't feasible:
Great article. Thanks for finding that. If I can get a grand or two for each, I'm going to definately convert these things. Cept, I'll be converting them into cash, which will then be converted into a brew structure.


__________________
Primary: Nada
Secondary: Squat
Bottled: Nut Brown
neckbone is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Converting burner from Propane to Natural Gas stevenryals Brew Stands 35 03-29-2013 03:33 PM
Converting low pressure jet burner redde2brew Brew Stands 2 12-04-2010 03:49 AM
Kettle.....steam + electricity hammis Brew Stands 17 08-19-2010 04:22 PM
Steam Kettle Idea P-Lay Kettles, Mash Tuns, & Hot Liquor Tanks 29 02-19-2010 04:31 AM
Help converting my kettle valicious Kettles, Mash Tuns, & Hot Liquor Tanks 6 01-12-2010 12:57 PM


Forum Jump

Newest Threads

LATEST SPONSOR DEALS