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Old 12-17-2011, 06:16 PM   #11
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hey i like that. i think i may try that next. making an oarmeal coffee stout today. the unfiltered apple juice would be really good but really expensive. i wonder if that is what is going to make a big differance in the apple taste. i might try a small batch and see.



 
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Old 12-17-2011, 10:36 PM   #12
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I buy the cider at Walmart, it's about $2.25 a gallon


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Old 12-17-2011, 11:21 PM   #13
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my last batch of graff cider wasnt very appley either but the last bottle of it i had was almost a year after bottling was amazing. the apple flavor really came back after ageing.
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Old 12-18-2011, 08:11 AM   #14
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i really like that recipe. i might try it next! so... i was thinking. what if one was to use a yeast that can not tolerate large amounts of alc. give the yeast enough sugars to eat to come close to that level. when the ferment peters off due to excessive amounts of alc, back sweeten to desired sweetness and bottle. if you got it right it may just ferment a little in the bottle. that way you get the appley sweetness and the carbonation without a keg or exploding bottles. any thoughts?? might that work?

 
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Old 12-18-2011, 08:16 AM   #15
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I buy the cider at Walmart, it's about $2.25 a gallon
really?? for the unfiltered not from concentrate? i found the reconstituted apple juice at Walmart for that price, but not the good stuff. i just got a couple bottles of the simply brand unfiltered apple juice. going to try one with just that and my hef yeast. another im mixing in lemon juice and fresh ginger juice.

 
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Old 12-18-2011, 09:44 AM   #16
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Yea it's near the deli section in the "row coolers" with the fruit and veggies.
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Old 12-21-2011, 04:32 PM   #17
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what if one was to use a yeast that can not tolerate large amounts of alc. give the yeast enough sugars to eat to come close to that level. when the ferment peters off due to excessive amounts of alc, back sweeten to desired sweetness and bottle. if you got it right it may just ferment a little in the bottle. that way you get the appley sweetness and the carbonation without a keg or exploding bottles. any thoughts?? might that work?

 
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Old 12-22-2011, 04:37 PM   #18
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anybody have any input on the above posted high alc content trick? do yeast do anything weird like produce off flavors in the face of high alc levels??

 
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Old 12-22-2011, 04:42 PM   #19
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what if one was to use a yeast that can not tolerate large amounts of alc. give the yeast enough sugars to eat to come close to that level. when the ferment peters off due to excessive amounts of alc, back sweeten to desired sweetness and bottle. if you got it right it may just ferment a little in the bottle. that way you get the appley sweetness and the carbonation without a keg or exploding bottles. any thoughts?? might that work?
I don't think it'll work. I had a theory that the Windsor yeast that I had sitting around would finish higher than the usual wine/champagne yeasts that are used for Apfewein. I only fed it half the recommended sugar and I still finished at 0.997. Around 7.5% ABV if my calcs were correct.

Even Windsor which usually craps out early in beer with complex malt sugars, goes to town on the easy to digest simple sugars of Apfelwein.
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Old 12-22-2011, 06:14 PM   #20
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Yea I don't see it working, but I would be interested if you pursue the answer.


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