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Old 11-18-2011, 01:26 PM   #1
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I tried Coopers Carbonation Tabs for the first time with a batch of pumpkin ale I just bottled. As per the instructions I used two tabs per 12 oz long neck. After two weeks I have a pop when the lid is cracked but absolutely no other signs of carbonation. As I have done some investigating online I've noticed that a lot of people use just one drop per bottle. Did I over do it? Last night I gave them all a swirl to hopefully get the yeast back up in solution and active again. I really hope I didn't screw up because the beer tasted great. Any thoughts or ideas would be greatly appreciated.

 
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Old 11-18-2011, 02:32 PM   #2

If you hear a pop, that means some carbing is happening, which means the yeast are eating up the sugars and releasing CO2. So I wouldn't worry about it yet, just give the yeast some more time to do their duty.

In addition to swirling it up, you might also consider moving the bottles to the warmest place you have in the home - warmer temps will encourage the yeast to get busy.

Can't help you with the number of tabs per bottle, have never used them.

 
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Old 11-18-2011, 02:33 PM   #3
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I think you just need to give it more time. A medium gravity beer typically takes at least three weeks at room temperature to carb up. Bigger beers will take even longer.

 
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Old 11-18-2011, 02:36 PM   #4
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The 3 weeks at 70 degrees, that we recommend is the minimum time it takes for average gravity beers to carbonate and condition. Higher grav beers take longer.

Stouts and porters have taken me between 6 and 8 weeks to carb up..I have a 1.090 Belgian strong that took three months to carb up.


Temp and gravity are the two factors that contribute to the time it takes to carb beer. But if a beer's not ready yet, or seems low carbed, and you added the right amount of sugar to it, then it's not stalled, it's just not time yet.

Everything you need to know about carbing and conditioning, can be found here Of Patience and Bottle Conditioning. With emphasis on the word, "patience."

If a beer isn't carbed by "x number of weeks" you just have to give them more time. If you added your sugar, then the beer will carb up eventually, it's really a foolroof process. All beers will carb up eventually. A lot of new brewers think they have to "troubleshoot" a bottling issue, when there really is none, the beer knows how to carb itself. In fact if you run beersmiths carbing calculator, some lower grav beers don't even require additional sugar to reach their minimum level of carbonation. Just time.

At two weeks I wouldn't expect ANY of my beers to be carbed yet.....
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Old 11-18-2011, 02:40 PM   #5
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The 2 carb drops per bottle bit is intended for cooper's own 25oz PET bottles. 12oz bottles should get only one. When I used them,they took at least 3 weeks to start showing decent carbonation. $ to 5 weeks seemed to be better. But at 7 weeks on,they started to over-carbonate.
Bubbles got bigger,& with head like soda pop. That's why I went to bulk priming 100 times better.
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Old 11-18-2011, 02:41 PM   #6
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The coopers tabs I used a while back were 2 tabs per 750ml (just over 25oz). So it seems despite the lack of carbonation so far, you may get a lot more than you hoped for eventually.
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Old 11-18-2011, 02:44 PM   #7
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The 2 carb drops per bottle bit is intended for cooper's own 25oz PET bottles. 12oz bottles should get only one. When I used them,they took at least 3 weeks to start showing decent carbonation. $ to 5 weeks seemed to be better. But at 7 weeks on,they started to over-carbonate.
Bubbles got bigger,& with head like soda pop. That's why I went to bulk priming 100 times better.
They shouldn't over carb like that are you positive they didn't overcarb at 7 weeks because of an in bottle infection? Sounds like a gusher to me. The sugar should have been long consumed by then.
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Nah man,they were perfectly fine in every way. It was just rather odd that the carb bubbles were fine,head was good up till then. Then the color got a bit more golden,the bubbles got bigger,& the head got looser.
Disappeared faster too. I have some picks of my first home brew in my gallery that show it. I called it HB1,second or third pic was at 7 weeks. Take a look & see what you think?...
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Old 11-18-2011, 02:58 PM   #9
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Well, from what I'm hearing the situation isn't as bad as I expected. I'm still a rookie at this and wasn't sure if I had maybe overpowered it with sugar. I guess they will just be a bit sweeter than expected. The reason I tried the tabs this time was that I split my batch. Half was bottled as is and the other half had additional spices added to it. Still though, I have read a lot of positive experiences with them so I might give the tabs one more shot. (with the correct amount of course)

 
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Well, from what I'm hearing the situation isn't as bad as I expected. I'm still a rookie at this and wasn't sure if I had maybe overpowered it with sugar. I guess they will just be a bit sweeter than expected. The reason I tried the tabs this time was that I split my batch. Half was bottled as is and the other half had additional spices added to it. Still though, I have read a lot of positive experiences with them so I might give the tabs one more shot. (with the correct amount of course)
It won't be more sweeter it will be more highly carbed. Simple sugars ferment 100% or nearly that, so it won't be sweet there will be a tiny bit more alcohol and more co2....In order to have a sweet taste in beer, you either have to kill the yeast off so it won't ferment the sugar, have so much additional sugars in their that the yeast die leaving unfermented behind (It takes a lot more sugar to do this) OR you have to add an unfermentable sugar such as lactose.
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