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Old 10-11-2005, 09:41 PM   #1
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Im kinda new at brewing still, all my brewing has been from Brewer's best kits.
In these kits they have always had a liquid and a dry malt extract.
I dont remember the exact sizes, but thenormal size liquid extract can and maybe 1lb dry?

Anywho, in the future I would like to mess around with extract brewing and experimenting with new beers and recipes you dont get in kits.

Is there any reason why I cant make all my experimental beer with dry extract?

The liquid seems to be more of a mess for me and heavier if I get it shipped.

If I find a recipe online that asks for a mix of dry and liquid, can I get an equivelent dry that will match any liquid they ask for?

Im doing kits now, but (unless im misunderstanding) I see myself taking yeast, dry extract, hops and possibly minor grains as described by others home recipes as my next step in brewing.

thanks for any info


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Old 10-11-2005, 10:36 PM   #2
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My last two batches I've converted LME/DME recipes to DME only. There's just two things to worry about. 1) DME is supposedly more expensive than LME, although lately it looks like that might not be the case. 2) You need to find out what % of fermentables is in the LME. For example, John Bull LME has a low percentage of fermentables, so you'd want to sub something like Laglander DME which also finishes out sweet.


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Im kinda new at brewing still, all my brewing has been from Brewer's best kits.
In these kits they have always had a liquid and a dry malt extract.
I dont remember the exact sizes, but thenormal size liquid extract can and maybe 1lb dry?

Anywho, in the future I would like to mess around with extract brewing and experimenting with new beers and recipes you dont get in kits.

Is there any reason why I cant make all my experimental beer with dry extract?

The liquid seems to be more of a mess for me and heavier if I get it shipped.

If I find a recipe online that asks for a mix of dry and liquid, can I get an equivelent dry that will match any liquid they ask for?

Im doing kits now, but (unless im misunderstanding) I see myself taking yeast, dry extract, hops and possibly minor grains as described by others home recipes as my next step in brewing.

thanks for any info
Are you sure you are getting LME AND DME? Maybe you are confusing what you think is DME with what is in reality steeping grains?
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Old 10-11-2005, 11:52 PM   #4
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It doesn't seem that uncommon to see recipes call for both LME and DME. There shouldn't be much trouble converting them to all DME recipes as El P has described. I image that the cans of LME have more varieties of "flavors", but if you're steeping specialty grains, I wouldn't think that would be much of a factor.
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I'm really curious about this too. I read somewhere that DME was better on acount of the better rate of sugar something or other but that it was just more expensive, so you only used as much as you dared. When I went to get ingredients though I found the LME was much more expensive, although I suspect the store I went to ripped me off. Does anyone know more about this?
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Of my last 8 extract brews, 6 were DME only. I had read Janx post that he thought it made for a cleaner tasting beer. I have read that for lighter colored beers, DME only beers will be lighter than LME, maybe because LME's supposedly can darken over time.

You'll do fine with DME only.
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Are you sure you are getting LME AND DME? Maybe you are confusing what you think is DME with what is in reality steeping grains?
Some of the kits Ive done have a mix of dry malt powder, liquid malt extract and a small bag of grains I put in a bag and steap up to 160 F.
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Whatever you use, I HIGHLY recommend you user a lot of the lightest DME (Extra Light) you can find to form your brews then add the darker malts for bocks, stouts, dunkels, etc.

A little bit of the darker stuff goes a long way.
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I've only seen a few "shades" of dry extract. Seems that would make it harder to get the right blend. Although if you also use specialty grains, a large box of the lightest DME would a great savings.

I mainly use DME to boost a wort's gravity, if it comes out a little low. If I'm doing an extract ale, I tend to use LME.

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I've only seen a few "shades" of dry extract. Seems that would make it harder to get the right blend. Although if you also use specialty grains, a large box of the lightest DME would a great savings.

I mainly use DME to boost a wort's gravity, if it comes out a little low. If I'm doing an extract ale, I tend to use LME.
But if you move to using extra light DME as your base malt you can buy in bulk and always have it around.


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