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Old 11-13-2011, 07:28 PM   #1
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After just over 3 years of homebrewing, I finally switched to kegging! Let's just say, my experience so far hasn't quite matched the picture on the tin. And since my wife (who is the best wife ever for finally caving!) doesn't want to hear about all the things that went wrong, I'm posting it all here!

My Saturday went as follows: wake up, take the baby to daddy & me swim class, and then in the three hours left until daddy & me skating class with my son, I had some pick-ups to make. First stop, extended-stay hotel to pick up used fridge. Second stop, Morebeer to pick up a keg kit. Third stop, home! After skating class was over, I started reading through the instructions (and the stickies on HBT), and discovered "problem" number one.

Once you gas up your keg, you have to wait a week to drink it!* So, reading all the posts about kegging, I had this expectation that I would just hook up the gas, shake for a bit, and wind up with perfectly carbed beer with a perfect head and served by the St. Pauli Girl. Apparently though, those are all just rumors to get people signed up. The instructions say to set my regulator to serving pressure, and then wait... (Note to keggers: when you bottle and prime at 70F, it takes about a week to carb your bottles). But, ok.

Ok, this was pretty awesome. I ferment in a bucket, and had crashed cooled it a few days prior. Rack into keg... done! No bottling bucket, wand, bottles, anything! This was even easier than the Tap-a-draft, which I thought was pretty easy.

Instructions: "Hook everything up; you should know what to do with all these extra gaskets so we won't tell you where they go; pressurize your keg and then flush it." It really seemed like those quick disconnects needed a gasket or o-ring, but none of the included ones fit. At the end of it all, I had two gaskets left over... Since nothing exploded, I hope they were just extras.

Ok, so time for flushing... Except my keg has no release valve. Not to worry though; I have a Master's degree in Engineering. So, shut off the gas line, disconnect the gas-in from the keg, and then push down on the gas-in valve. Beer shoots out. CRAP! I must have hooked the lines up wrong. Push the valve on the beer-out post. Even more beer shoots out. So, no flush. No big deal.

Except that when I reconnected the gas line (now at atmospheric pressure) to the keg, beer shot out again -- into the gas line. Great.

Ooh, a carbonation table that lists volumes of CO2 along with fridge temp and PSI. Let's go online to see what I'm supposed to be serving my beer at. My first kegged beer is Janet's Brown, which I'll say is between an IPA and an American Brown. Serve at... 55F? Carb at... 2 volumes? So, the handy sheet also lists priming sugar amounts. This would work out to like 2oz of priming sugar. I have never used less than 5 oz, and always served at food-fridge temp (37F). So either I have been seriously over-carbing every beer I've ever made, or I'm about to get some warm, flat beer.

I am sure that this is going to be better for me and my beer, but it was still kind of a shock.

4. TEMPERATURE DEPENDENCE (or, PV=No gas for you)
Initial set-up: CO2 cylinder at room temp, regulator at room temp. Setting up for 10psi, since the beer was at about 35F. Then it all went into the new fridge. The next morning, I thought I'd get a sneak peak. Regulator reading: 5 psi... Even the tank gauge had dropped with the decrease in temperature. Ideal Gas Law? The real Ideal Gas Law would be "set your regulator, and everything will be FINE!"

Can we please elect a President who is bold enough to repeal that ridiculous Ideal Gas Law?

I'm just so glad I started off with a single keg and picnic tap, rather than a faucet. At least I haven't had a chance to screw up things like pressure balancing, faucet-mounting, manifold setup, etc.

So, one day in, and I can say that there is only one thing in the world more stressful, time consuming and error-prone than kegging. And that is bottling.

Thanks; I feel better now.

*Or, you can mess with your pressure, shake it for a bit, wave your magic wand and wind up with a 5-gallon, 800psi bottle bomb.

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Old 11-13-2011, 08:26 PM   #3
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Sounds like you had a pretty hectic day along with trying to get your first beer kegged. Don't worry it only gets easier. Awhile from now you'll look back and laugh.

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Old 11-13-2011, 08:34 PM   #4
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LOL - funny.

Best thing is throw that carb sheet/chart away. I have never, ever used a carb chart. And set and forget is for wimps!

Set the pressure at 30psi for 36 hours. Reduce to 10-12psi and let sit until ready. Usually 2-3 more days. Try a little every day until it is good. That said, you can force carb the beer in one day. I have never gone that route and can't advise on it.

The only way to get beer coming out of both posts is if you put too much beer in the keg. You want to basically make sure the beer fill line is below the gas in side tube. You might have to drink some flat beer if you have too much for the keg. You also probably want to try the purge again as if you don't, the beer will start to oxidize sitting with Oxygen in the headspace. But it sounds like you might have converted pin locks so pressing in the fitting on the gas in should purge as long as the beer again is below the gas post. If the beer is bubbly and foamy in the keg, you'd also get a little spray out of the gas post so you might need to wait until the beer settles down a bit.

Try again! Keggin is 100% worth it!

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Old 11-13-2011, 09:29 PM   #5
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Yeah, I didn't realize about the gas dip tube until I had beer in my face. Really, the keg has a "beer from the top" port and a "beer from the bottom" port.

Now, a few hours after tweaking everything, it looks like things are settling down. I had to pour a glass to deal with a second suck-back issue, and it tasted pretty good!

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Old 11-17-2011, 04:31 AM   #6
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One update: a hugely suprising -- though obvious in hindsight -- benefit to the kegerator is that my beer is now at a much better serving temperature. The bottled beer, remaining tap-a-draft bottles, and everything tastes so much better just being up at 48F instead of 37. I'm seeing better head retention, more lacing, much more aroma, and more bubble formation (which I assume is also contributing to the extra aroma).

The beer fridge would have been worth it even without the keg inside. My mountain is no longer blue, and it feels so good!

And... a replacement regulator is coming in the mail. Apparently, at least one of my problems was likely due to a faulty regulator.

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Old 11-17-2011, 04:17 PM   #7
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Originally Posted by belmontbrew View Post
My mountain is no longer blue, and it feels so good!

love that phrase, and it is so true..
~ A fine beer may be judged with only one sip, but it's better to be thoroughly sure.

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Old 11-17-2011, 04:21 PM   #8
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Excellent post! I laughed remembering back to my first days of kegging and looking at it all and thinking WTF???
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