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Old 04-23-2007, 02:09 AM   #11
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I wish we could exchange twang-y beer to see if we are talking about the same things. I kind of identify the taste as slightly sour, I am also debating the possibility of having an infection. But I have gone over everything and can't figure it out. . .my first beer didn't have it (half and half DME, LME). But it was there in force in the 2nd and 3rd (all LME).

I am going to try to do a partial mash with late boil malt addition see if this helps.

It is going to be quite a project to get the hops right.
Use DME, not LME if you are going to do late addition (for color) and post your recipe in the late extract addition thread. Someone will convert the hops amounts for you.



 
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Old 04-23-2007, 02:16 AM   #12
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I was having problem with the twang when I was using LME. I have since switched to using all DME and the problem seems to have been eliminated.

I am planning to go to partial mash mainly because I want to use some grains that have to be mashed (like Marris Otter) and because I want to step up the amount of involvement I have in making my beers. I would be going AG but don't have the ability to do a full boil.


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Old 04-23-2007, 02:17 AM   #13
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Use DME, not LME if you are going to do late addition (for color) and post your recipe in the late extract addition thread. Someone will convert the hops amounts for you.
Thanks,

I am planning on getting DME. Does anyone know if AHS will sub DME for LME (I would pay any price difference)?

I want to use there Kolsch kit, but I guess I can buy the ingredients on my own.

 
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Old 04-23-2007, 10:39 PM   #14
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I too have experienced something like this 'twang' in all my kit brews. I could not place the taste, but it is similar throughout all the brews I made.
So, too officially kick a dead horse, if I were to steep my grains, adjust hops as needed, boil and add my DME in the last few minutes of the boil, say when I am adding my finishing hops, I can be rid of this 'twangy' taste without messing up my original intended taste profile?
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Old 04-23-2007, 11:21 PM   #15
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Just my 2 cents on this: my biggest leaps in quality came when I switched to partial mash, when I started using liquid yeast, and when I got my aeration kit.

WRT to the partial mashing, overall, the bigger your grain/extract ratio is, the better the beer will be (general rule, there are exceptions). I didn't notice a big jump in quality on my first AG, and I still do PM's alongside my AG's.

In other words, I HIGHLY recommend going PM, and using as much grain as is possible given your brewing infrastructure.
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Old 04-24-2007, 05:28 AM   #16
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I havent started partial mashing yet but my first liquid yeast beer was opened tonight and it's definitely the best thus far.

 
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Old 04-24-2007, 01:43 PM   #17
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My first liquid yeast beer has yet to carb and is taking its sweet ass time!

It does taste much better than the two batches before.
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My first liquid yeast beer has yet to carb and is taking its sweet ass time!

It does taste much better than the two batches before.
How long did it age in secondary? Did you repitch any new yeast at bottling?
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Old 04-24-2007, 01:49 PM   #19
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I went to AG because all of my beers had a similar flavor that, after a dozen batches, I was getting sick of. Made my first AG and that taste is completely absent.
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How long did it age in secondary? Did you repitch any new yeast at bottling?
If i remember, i left it in the primary for around 10 days and 2 weeks in the secondary. I took my time because i'd been having trouble getting the FG below 1.02. This brew came down to 1.016 i think. About repitching yeast, i used whatever yeast was in suspension to carb the beer.


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