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Old 10-27-2011, 12:32 PM   #31
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But I don't go strictly by hydrometer readings. The FG is probably reached by day 3, usually. I wait until about day 10-12 to either keg or dryhop. .
This is obviousynfor ales but you are also saying it's not much diff with lagers.....I have read a lot of D rest posts that recommend 10 days. - My understanding is D rests only work if you are not fully attenuated....
So how are you doing your lagers ( I'm doing your Marzen as soon as the Midwest shipment gets here)?

 
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Old 10-27-2011, 01:00 PM   #32
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I think what's being suggested is just the opposite. Draw a sample and "have a taste". Then decide if it's ready to keg.
should have said "have a taste then keg"... oops

 
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Old 10-27-2011, 09:46 PM   #33
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This is obviousynfor ales but you are also saying it's not much diff with lagers.....I have read a lot of D rest posts that recommend 10 days. - My understanding is D rests only work if you are not fully attenuated....
So how are you doing your lagers ( I'm doing your Marzen as soon as the Midwest shipment gets here)?
For lagers, I keep the beer at fermentation temperature about 5-7 days, or until the beer is about 75% of the way to FG or about 1.020. This depends on the strain, usually, but once it starts to slow down I check the SG to see if I"m close to 75% of the way to FG.

Then I do the diacetyl rest for 48 hours. If after 48 hours, there is ANY hint of diacetyl, however slight, like even a slight oily mouthfeel or a slickness, I maintain the d-rest temps until it's gone.

After the diacetyl rest, I rack and begin the lagering process.
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Old 11-01-2011, 02:23 PM   #34
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Forgive my ignorance but, can you/do you lager it in the bottle when you bottle?
Same for ales...ffor bottling purposes do you bottle age after the 3-7 days primary is up?
Sorry if I'm beating a dead horse here but this is a bit of a paradigm shift for me and I don't keg so I am trying to correlate to my process.

 
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Old 11-01-2011, 09:26 PM   #35
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Forgive my ignorance but, can you/do you lager it in the bottle when you bottle?
Same for ales...ffor bottling purposes do you bottle age after the 3-7 days primary is up?
Sorry if I'm beating a dead horse here but this is a bit of a paradigm shift for me and I don't keg so I am trying to correlate to my process.
When you bottle, you will want to do it at room temp close to 70*
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Old 11-02-2011, 10:47 AM   #36
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After the diacetyl rest, I rack and begin the lagering process.
If you keg, you are racking to a keg and age/lager in that; correct?
What I'm asking is if you don't keg, do you rack to a secondary fermenter and lager ( store for multiple weeks at mid/low 30s) then bottle OR- would you bottle it and lager ( store for multiple weeks at mid/low 30s) in the bottle?

 
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Old 11-04-2011, 01:40 PM   #37
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For lagers, I keep the beer at fermentation temperature about 5-7 days...

After the diacetyl rest, I rack and begin the lagering process.
Primary = 5-7 days
D-rest= 2-3 days
Secondary= 14 days
Lager = 6 weeks
Then bottle
Bottle condition = 3 weeks
Provided you don't die a sudden unexplained death I sould be enjoying a nice cold lager in roughly 13 short weeks of I understand your Yoopers Marzen post correctly.
Has your philosophy changed at all on any of that or does that basically cover it ?
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