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Old 10-16-2011, 11:40 PM   #1
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Default Wyeast 3711 is insane.

I know there've been a few threads about this guy before, but I used it for the first time last week and wow...
It brought a beer from 1.070 to 1.002 in one week flat!
...oh and I now know what yeast bite tastes like , the hyrdo sample tastes more like like liquor than beer. I figure it'll mellow out though.


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Old 10-16-2011, 11:51 PM   #2
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I know there've been a few threads about this guy before, but I used it for the first time last week and wow...
It brought a beer from 1.070 to 1.002 in one week flat!
...oh and I now know what yeast bite tastes like , the hyrdo sample tastes more like like liquor than beer. I figure it'll mellow out though.
Don't count on the mellowing. I gave 10g of a belgian strong golden ale away because of the overt alcohol kick.

I'll be very careful with 3711 in the future. I made a fairly small saison with it that was nearly ruined because of the crazy attenuation.


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How would this yeast do for bottle conditioning? Say my beer is 1.015 FG and I add my priming sugar, is it gonna drop my FG down to less than 1.015 and make it too dry?
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At what temp did you ferment? Higher initial ferm temps can cause the fusal alcohol taste.
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Don't count on the mellowing. I gave 10g of a belgian strong golden ale away because of the overt alcohol kick.
How long did you wait before you made that call? I have a Quad that's still pretty boozy, and its been 6 months in bottles now. I figure ill give it the rest of a year before I judge it.
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How long did you wait before you made that call? I have a Quad that's still pretty boozy, and its been 6 months in bottles now. I figure ill give it the rest of a year before I judge it.
Probably about 6 months. IMO it got worse with time. I remember drinking 1 and it gave me a hangover. Next day I loaded every one of them up and gave them to a work friend. (he and his wife loved them )

I've waited on a couple of other beers that have improved (RIS and barleywine), but they didn't suffer from fusels.
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How would this yeast do for bottle conditioning? Say my beer is 1.015 FG and I add my priming sugar, is it gonna drop my FG down to less than 1.015 and make it too dry?
Yes and your bottles will explode. Plus this yeast causes a weird thing in the bottle. I get a very difficult to clean film that coats the inside of each bottle. It's real strange but a strong oxy clean and bottle brush removes the film.
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...oh and I now know what yeast bite tastes like , the hyrdo sample tastes more like like liquor than beer. I figure it'll mellow out though.
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Don't count on the mellowing. I gave 10g of a belgian strong golden ale away because of the overt alcohol kick.
What temp?

I can't say I like this yeast, but I've used it a few times and fermented low to mid 70s in a swamp cooler and have not had any issues with fusels.
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Yes and your bottles will explode. Plus this yeast causes a weird thing in the bottle. I get a very difficult to clean film that coats the inside of each bottle. It's real strange but a strong oxy clean and bottle brush removes the film.
Is it just this yeast? I get the same with several different yeasts.

I've been getting in the habit of filling each bottle (as they come empty) with a mild bleach solution (I keep some in a bucket all the time), and it cleans it right off.
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It's something with the yeast strain. There are other stains that do it too I'm sure. My 3711 bottles all had them. Also the ECY03 strain does the same thing. I tried everything to clean the film, but a little scrubbing with strong oxyclean did the thing. I tried bleach, and even CLR which didn't get it to budge! I really wanted the bottles clean because they were the heavier belgian bottles.


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