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Old 09-30-2011, 10:59 AM   #1
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Default Oktoberfest-Marzen beer with Ale yeast?

Do to budgetary concerns of a new baby and new house will not be able to lager for a while longer. However I have a Recipe kit for an Oktoberfest that I am planning to brew up Saturday morning but hears the kicker...I am going to use wyeast's 1099 whitebread ale yeast. From whit i have learned on the yeast it should turn out nice and clear with my standard practices. Does an ale yeast totally throw this off style? Im sure it does by beer nazi standards, But im not a hack i read and read on yeasts and this one to me seemed the most suiting. any feed back, anyone do this before or used this yeast before? potentally can this beer turn out too sweet? What should I look For?

I also started the yeast starter last night no results yet but im hoping as the house warms this afternoon it should kick into gear and we can pitch tomorrow.


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Old 09-30-2011, 11:31 AM   #2
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Rogue Dead Guy is basically an ale version of a Märzen. The beer can definitely be too sweet, but that would be an issue of recipe more than yeast. Anyway, I'm sure it will be great.


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Old 09-30-2011, 12:39 PM   #3
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There are numerous oktoberfest reciepes that use ale yeast on this board. Edwort uses a kolsch yeast, BierMuncher uses us-04, I personally use wlp007 in mine. Just ferment on the colder side of the temp range for the yeast your using and you should get good results.
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Old 09-30-2011, 03:44 PM   #4
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Kolsch or California common / steam yeast would work well here.
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Mine turned out great. I just pitched Nottingham went about my business.
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I brewed my Marzen 5 months ago with a white labs Kolsch yeast. Pulled off my first pint earlier tonight and it was fantastic! You'd never believe it was brewed with ale yeast.
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I'll join the list of the faithful in using Kölsch yeast for fake lagers, having done this a couple of times for a Munich Dunkel. I didn't get as "bright" or "crisp" of an experience from the beer, but it tasted really nice.

I have never used the 1099 before, but hey...I hope it worked out for ya!
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Rogue Dead Guy is basically an ale version of a Märzen. The beer can definitely be too sweet, but that would be an issue of recipe more than yeast. Anyway, I'm sure it will be great.
Actually Dead Guy is loosely a Maibock, not a Marzen.

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I used wyeast Scottish ale for mine and just tasted it yesterday after two weeks in bottles and i am very happy with it, I just picked something that kept some sweetness and didn't finish dry and could handle higher temps because I don't have any way of handling fermentation temps except a Swamp chiller
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I've used 1099 several times and that's the yeast I chose to make my fake oktoberfest with yesterday. I use kolsch yeast all the time to make kolsches and I can't see that tart sharp flavor being very good in something I think should be malty and sweet. Maybe I have the wrong idea of what an oktoberfest should taste like, but it sure is good.


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