Dry Hop Mess-Up - Home Brew Forums
Register Now For Free!

Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > General Beer Discussion > Dry Hop Mess-Up

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 09-13-2011, 02:47 PM   #1
billn3
Recipes 
 
Mar 2011
Athens, GA
Posts: 8


Took my first shot at dry hopping yesterday and I'm having some doubts based on an error on my part.

I was distracted while racking and forgot I had hops for dry hopping, so I didn't throw the hops in first and rack on top of them like I had planned. So I threw the whole leaf Citra on top of the brew and shook the carboy relatively vigorously in order to get all of the hops wet enough to sink. I also added 2 oz of oak chips after boiling them for about a minute.

Now I'm worried that shaking right after racking was a terrible idea and that by doing so I allowed too much oxidation. 8 hours later the hops were still floating on top, and the brew looked darker. So here are my questions:

1. Did I likely over-oxidize the brew by shaking it? The darker color worries me, but it could also be from the oak chips.
2. Is it bad that after 8 hours the hops are still floating? I know it won't hurt, I just really wanted to get that dry hop flavor. Will I get it if they float? And might they still stink after a while?
3. Do I need to worry about the oak chips infecting the beer?

Thanks in advance for your help. I'm just another nervous rookie!

 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-13-2011, 02:53 PM   #2
dgez
Recipes 
 
Feb 2008
Atlanta, GA
Posts: 168
Liked 13 Times on 11 Posts


1) doubt it
2) nope, yes, nope
3) prob not

gotta let those jitters go man, they will destroy you.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-13-2011, 02:59 PM   #3
BBL_Brewer
HBT_SUPPORTER.png
 
BBL_Brewer's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Feb 2011
Kokomo, IN
Posts: 3,702
Liked 440 Times on 303 Posts


Whole leaf hops float. There's no way around it unless you put them in a grain bag or something and weight them down. I just let them float and get plenty of hoppy goodness. As for the oak chips, I've never used them, but if you boiled them you shouldn't have to worry about infection. The oxidation issue, well, it probably didn't help things any but I doubt it hurt things enough to make a huge difference. If you plan to drinkt the beer pretty quickly I wouldn't worry about it.
__________________
Slots Down Brewery
Stick with the plan....not the sparge.


Never Ending Liquid Yeast - How to Farm Yeast and Freeze it.


 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-13-2011, 03:03 PM   #4
phenry
Recipes 
 
Feb 2011
Clemson, SC
Posts: 1,222
Liked 121 Times on 73 Posts


Never shake a fermented batch of beer. The hops will soak up water on their own, I've never tried to submerge hops when dry hopping but they're always soaking wet one week later when I bottle.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-13-2011, 03:20 PM   #5
scottland
Recipes 
 
May 2010
Chandler, AZ
Posts: 2,116
Liked 157 Times on 114 Posts


This is definitely a big case of Relax, don't worry, and have a homebrew. Shaking the beer will knock a ton of CO2 out of solution. Any oxygen that happened to get into your fermenter was pushed out from all the CO2, so no oxidation worries. Floating whole hops are perfectly fine.

Just relax, and have a homebrew. Wait a week, then rack your beer to bottling bucket or keg, and have another homebrew. Everything will be fine.

agentEhrman Likes This 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-13-2011, 06:12 PM   #6
billn3
Recipes 
 
Mar 2011
Athens, GA
Posts: 8

Great, thank you guys for a quick and helpful response! I'm not letting myself freak out; definitely relaxing and enjoying many homebrews. Just want to learn as much as possible and keep improving with each batch. Thanks again!

 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-13-2011, 06:16 PM   #7
IffyG
 
IffyG's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Oct 2009
Nashville
Posts: 1,393
Liked 62 Times on 51 Posts


Quote:
Originally Posted by scottland View Post
Shaking the beer will knock a ton of CO2 out of solution. Any oxygen that happened to get into your fermenter was pushed out from all the CO2, so no oxidation worries.
I'm not trying to incite panic here, but I disagree with that statement. He probably introduced oxygen into the beer while shaking the carboy especially if it was done so vigorously. I wouldn't be surprised if the beer develops oxidation over time and I'd suggest drinking this batch in relatively short order, lest you end up with some nasty beer.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-13-2011, 06:18 PM   #8
makomachine
 
makomachine's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Jun 2011
Tuttle, OK
Posts: 970
Liked 18 Times on 16 Posts


Quote:
Originally Posted by IffyG View Post
I'm not trying to incite panic here, but I disagree with that statement. He probably introduced oxygen into the beer while shaking the carboy especially if it was done so vigorously. I wouldn't be surprised if the beer develops oxidation over time and I'd suggest drinking this batch in relatively short order, lest you end up with some nasty beer.
+1 - I've oxidized a beer with a lot less intensity
__________________
Kegged: Waldo Lake Amber, Notty as Helles, Vanilla Porter, Sweet Stout (nitro), NB Surly Furious Clone, Petite Saison D'ete, Le Seigle Belge Saison, BM Cream of 3 Crops, Edworts Apfelwein
Bottled: Nada!
In Process: Braggot
Upcoming Brews: Surley Furious Clone, Uintah Wyld

 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-13-2011, 06:20 PM   #9
scottland
Recipes 
 
May 2010
Chandler, AZ
Posts: 2,116
Liked 157 Times on 114 Posts


Quote:
Originally Posted by IffyG View Post
I'm not trying to incite panic here, but I disagree with that statement. He probably introduced oxygen into the beer while shaking the carboy especially if it was done so vigorously. I wouldn't be surprised if the beer develops oxidation over time and I'd suggest drinking this batch in relatively short order, lest you end up with some nasty beer.
I think it depends if he was shaking or swirling. I will sometimes swirl my dry hopped beers to rouse the hops. But yes, if he shook the carboy up and down, it did probably introduce some oxygen. The one thing he didn't mention is where he is with fermentation. If the beer hasn't reached final gravity, I wouldn't worry about the oxygen pickup, as the yeast will scrub that out. If the beer has reached final gravity, then yes, it's probably going to be a little oxygenated.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-13-2011, 06:27 PM   #10
IffyG
 
IffyG's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Oct 2009
Nashville
Posts: 1,393
Liked 62 Times on 51 Posts


Quote:
Originally Posted by billn3 View Post
1. Did I likely over-oxidize the brew by shaking it?
Pretty sure he was shaking it...

 
Reply With Quote
Reply
Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Vigorous fermentation w/ mess Double_D General Beer Discussion 10 08-05-2011 07:49 AM
Sticky Mess ksbrain General Beer Discussion 2 01-24-2011 01:42 PM
beautiful mess (with pic) jangelj General Beer Discussion 9 10-29-2010 01:36 PM
What a mess Mutine Bullfrog General Beer Discussion 6 08-29-2007 07:47 PM
First time brewing - did i mess up? Rvalverde86 General Beer Discussion 15 08-18-2007 01:33 AM


Forum Jump