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Old 09-12-2011, 07:50 PM   #1
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Any advise / suggestions on this? Took some stuff from a few good recipes..


Type: All Grain
Date: 9/12/2011
Batch Size: 5.50 gal
Brewer: John
Boil Size: 6.30 gal Asst Brewer:
Boil Time: 60 min Equipment: My Equipment
Taste Rating(out of 50): 35.0 Brewhouse Efficiency: 70.00
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
1.00 lb Rice Hulls (0.0 SRM) Adjunct 6.15 %
10.50 lb Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 64.62 %
2.00 lb Oats, Flaked (1.0 SRM) Grain 12.31 %
1.25 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt -120L (120.0 SRM) Grain 7.69 %
0.75 lb Chocolate Malt (350.0 SRM) Grain 4.62 %
0.75 lb Roasted Barley (300.0 SRM) Grain 4.62 %
1.00 oz Centennial [10.00 %] (60 min) Hops 28.7 IBU
1.00 oz Warrior [15.00 %] (30 min) Hops 33.1 IBU
1.00 oz Cascade [5.50 %] (5 min) Hops 3.1 IBU
1 Safale US-05 (11.5 grams)



Beer Profile

Est Original Gravity: 1.068 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.018 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 6.62 %
Bitterness: 65.0 IBU Calories: 43 cal/pint
Est Color: 39.8 SRM Color: Color


Mash Profile

Mash Name: Single Infusion, Medium Body, No Mash Out Total Grain Weight: 16.25 lb
Sparge Water: 3.17 gal Grain Temperature: 72.0 F
Sparge Temperature: 168.0 F TunTemperature: 72.0 F
Adjust Temp for Equipment: TRUE Mash PH: 5.4 PH

Single Infusion, Medium Body, No Mash Out Step Time Name Description Step Temp
60 min Mash In Add 20.31 qt of water at 165.9 F 154.0 F


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I would back off the C-120 to .25 lbs or so, and lose the 5 min hop addition.

Any particular reason for the rice hulls? What kind of false bottom are you using? Are stuck sparges common for you? It certainly won't hurt to have them in there, but you might want to save that for a wheat beer down the road. Just a thought.

Otherwise looks good. I like my oatmeal beers with a bit more oats also, and 2 lbs oughta do it.

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Old 09-12-2011, 09:25 PM   #3
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I would back off the C-120 to .25 lbs or so, and lose the 5 min hop addition.

Any particular reason for the rice hulls? What kind of false bottom are you using? Are stuck sparges common for you? It certainly won't hurt to have them in there, but you might want to save that for a wheat beer down the road. Just a thought.

Otherwise looks good. I like my oatmeal beers with a bit more oats also, and 2 lbs oughta do it.

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I was just worried about the 2# of oats making a mush out of things..
I was totally guessing on the C120, could you explain the effect of too much or using only .25 # will have? Rogue Shakespeare has about .5 # so maybe 1.25# is way too much?

Also I like the smell/taste of the Cascade/Centennial in other beers, think it will break it or mess it up? I pulled the Warrior from Alpha King recipe, it also has the Cascade/Centennial mix..
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I would back off the C-120 to .25 lbs or so, and lose the 5 min hop addition.

Any particular reason for the rice hulls? What kind of false bottom are you using? Are stuck sparges common for you? It certainly won't hurt to have them in there, but you might want to save that for a wheat beer down the road. Just a thought.

Otherwise looks good. I like my oatmeal beers with a bit more oats also, and 2 lbs oughta do it.

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I'd cut the C120 as Tiber mentioned, as it's very "raisiny" and strong. If you want more crystal malt you could use a lighter color and have a good balance of sweetness along with the roasty flavors.

I'd cut the rice hulls to a big handful or two- maybe .25 pound or less. A pound of rice hulls is about 1/3 of my MLT!
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i like to add a 1/2 lbs of golden naked oats to my oatmeal stouts too, gives it an excellent mouth feel and nutty-ness
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I was just worried about the 2# of oats making a mush out of things..
I was totally guessing on the C120, could you explain the effect of too much or using only .25 # will have? Rogue Shakespeare has about .5 # so maybe 1.25# is way too much?

Also I like the smell/taste of the Cascade/Centennial in other beers, think it will break it or mess it up? I pulled the Warrior from Alpha King recipe, it also has the Cascade/Centennial mix..
The reasons for cutting down on the C-120 and removing the 5 min hops are similar. A stout is a beer that focuses more on roast character than the toffee/raisin that comes with too much dark crystal, or hop flavor that comes with late hop additions. Half a pound of C-120 would probably be OK, but I prefer my stouts with less dark crystal character.

As for the rice hulls, I don't think it's as necessary as with wheat. Flaked oats don't promote stuck sparges as much as wheat does in my experience. Then again, I've never had a stuck sparge with wheat either - it will depend on your false bottom among other things. If you want to be safe, toss a handful in, and save the rest for wheat beers.

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Old 09-13-2011, 01:06 AM   #7
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Rice hulls are gone..
ok I don't want a raisin beer, I'll cut the C120 to 1/2 #
I'm not a fan of the coffee, chocolate taste, I like Samuel Smith Oatmeal Stout and Shakespeare souts..so I don't want to over power that..
So.. I got this now..

Amount Item Type % or IBU
10.50 lb Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 67.74 %
2.00 lb Oats, Flaked (1.0 SRM) Grain 12.90 %
1.00 lb Caramunich Malt (56.0 SRM) Grain 6.45 %
0.75 lb Chocolate Malt (350.0 SRM) Grain 4.84 %
0.75 lb Roasted Barley (300.0 SRM) Grain 4.84 %
0.50 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt -120L (120.0 SRM) Grain 3.23 %
1.00 oz Centennial [10.00 %] (60 min) Hops 28.5 IBU
0.50 oz Warrior [15.00 %] (30 min) Hops 16.4 IBU
0.50 oz Cascade [5.50 %] (5 min) Hops 1.6 IBU



Beer Profile

Est Original Gravity: 1.069 SG
Measured Original Gravity: 1.010 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.018 SG Measured Final Gravity: 1.005 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 6.73 % Actual Alcohol by Vol: 0.65 %
Bitterness: 46.5 IBU Calories: 43 cal/pint
Est Color: 38.4 SRM Color: Color
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Looks OK to me. Keeping the 5 min hops then?
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yea I cut back on the hops, but I still want more than the normal, but less than a bitter IPA
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All good, my friend -that's the beauty of homebrewing...make what you want to drink!

Let us know how it turns out!

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