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Old 09-10-2011, 02:47 AM   #1
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Tapped my keg of Munich/Chinook smash a week ago and have found it has a very orange and mint flavor that I have never gotten before from chinook. Anyone else done this smash that picked up similar flavors?
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Munich(10L) to 1.050 sg, mashed warm for body at 158
50 ibus (calculated per beersmith)
with a 60 min, 10 min, 5 min, flameout additions. dryhop with an 1.5 oz for last week.
Whitelabs wlp830 lager yeast @ 60 for 4 weeks.
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Its not terrible, but i get an armpit armoma and flavor.

 
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Old 09-10-2011, 03:01 AM   #2
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I'm no pro as I'm just starting to think about a SMaSH recipe but 158 seems a tad high to me, even for body.

I've been considering Munich or MO for my SMaSH and was considering 155 and wondering if that was high. Is it possible thats the reason for the flavors you've detected?

I always thought Chinook was mildly fruity. I'm curious as to the mint flavor.
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Old 09-10-2011, 03:14 AM   #3
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What a waste of Munich malt. I am no fan of Chinook. Its' flavor is like a blend of pine sap and used kitty litter. While it has many fans it is probably best paired with a blander domestic pale malt to showcase its' unique attributes.

 
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Old 09-10-2011, 03:21 AM   #4
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I doubt its the mash temp. One of my favorite breweries, Lagunitas mashes their ipa at 160°my and its mighty tasty.
forgot I added 5g gypsum to mash with plain ro water to make hops pop. Flavor good, just mix of malty orange seems "off". Seeing if anyone else got that
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Old 09-10-2011, 03:23 AM   #5
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What a waste of Munich malt. I am no fan of Chinook. Its' flavor is like a blend of pine sap and used kitty litter. While it has many fans it is probably best paired with a blander domestic pale malt to showcase its' unique attributes.
Kitty litter is a unique attribute?
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Old 09-10-2011, 03:23 AM   #6
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I doubt its the mash temp. One of my favorite breweries, Lagunitas mashes their ipa at 160°my and its mighty tasty.
forgot I added 5g gypsum to mash with plain ro water to make hops pop. Flavor good, just mix of malty orange seems "off". Seeing if anyone else got that
I havent graduated to messing around with my water profile, so I wont pretend to speak intelligently about that whole deal (or anything at all!).
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Old 09-10-2011, 03:35 AM   #7
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Kitty litter is a unique attribute?
I was trying to be polite here, but there is no hop I am aware of with more cat piss profile than Chinook. That said it has a big following so by deduction cat piss is a very popular flavor.

 
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Old 09-10-2011, 03:44 AM   #8
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I was trying to be polite here, but there is no hop I am aware of with more cat piss profile than Chinook. That said it has a big following so by deduction cat piss is a very popular flavor.
It all subjective, different people like different things. I have never once got "cat piss" from chinook, always fruity (grapefruit) and piney, I have got it from simcoe on occassion tho.

To the OP, is it possible your fermentation temperature got higher than you thought? If so your yeast may have gave you the flavor you described.

 
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Old 09-10-2011, 03:44 AM   #9
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I don't get cat piss from chinook but then ive only had it with special B.

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It all subjective, different people like different things. I have never once got "cat piss" from chinook, always fruity (grapefruit) and piney, I have got it from simcoe on occassion tho.

To the OP, is it possible your fermentation temperature got higher than you thought? If so your yeast may have gave you the flavor you described.
That and 60 degrees is at least 5 degrees higher than the optimum temp
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